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Green Giant
05-24-2012, 06:20 PM
Hello guys. First post on this forum, been reading The Boys since the first issue, loved it but stopped collecting single issues since issue 66. It was the expression on Hughies face when Annie told him she left him what did it for me. Why should i care about this douchebag? And why is Garth Ennis bringing this up now? This series shoud have been over when the Homelander died.
But as you're criticising you wonder: What would i have done? So here are my ideas. Now this is by no means finished and possibly full of plot holes
Which you guys will all probably find:) But this is my first post so please respectfully tell me what you think. Okay here we go:

First: I think Hughies backstory should change. I would make it so that he and Robin were celebrating that Hughie got a job as a inker for the englisch branch of Victory comics when A-train killed her. The reason for this is that it would make Hughie aware about the whole supe culture. Right now he didn't really know or care about supes, and if your main character doesn't care why should we?

This could also lead to discussions between him and Butcher about Supes. Because Hughie grew up reading the comics of the Seven and Payback and the G-Men, and he adored them, he thinks they're heroes. But then butcher tells him the truth about the supes. They did this a little bit in the comic shop where Hughie said: "Say didn't this guy die saving the universe or something"? and Butcher replied with: "Choked on cum".

By this back and forth we would learn more about the supes and the supe universe and we would get to see the supes actually doing supe stuff. Because now we only see the douchebags but not what people think is so great about them in the first place.
This could also lead to Hughie sneaking into the Seven HQ to try to save Maeve from herself. He is naïeve enough to think she wants to be saved and sort off in love with her so it would make sense. He would sneak in and would almost be discovered by one of the Seven before Frenchie and the Fenmale pulled him out. This would be funny i think.

Second: I think A-train needs more back ground. We know a lot about the Homelander because he is the focus of Butcher's revenge, but A-train is Hughies and we don't know shit about him. I would like to see how A-train got into the Seven and since the Seven are bassicaly a bunch of Fratboys there would be some hazing going on. I would like to see A-train struggling with being the new guy and striking up a friendship with Jack and see him being upset about killing Robin. He would still be a douchebag no doubt. He would still accept oral sex from Annie and try to rape her.
but we would see more about the process of power corrupting.

Third: I would let Frenchie get seriously injured in the fight with Payback. This would set the supes up as a more believeable threat and shake things up. He would be out of action for a while and be replaced by someone of Rayners choosing. I think this should be a woman. Who is not charmed by Butcher and tough as nails.
Not sure yet what to do with her or what kind of a role she would play in the story, but as i said she would shake things up a bit.

Fourth: Hughie stays in america with the boys after finding out about Annie and the Seven. The Highland Laddie storyline didn't add anything for me to Hughies character. He would stay in America and ask Butcher to teach him to be more like him, to hurt like him.
We would see hughie getting more and more dangerous and more and more like Butcher using more and more violence. Again we saw something of this in the fight with the Maverickz but not enough.
Meanwhile Annie is being contacted by Mallory who tells her the truth about Hughie and the boys. He can tell her the story which we saw in Barbary coast. Mallory's motive is of course to get to Butcher via Annie via Hughie. Mallory would probably be working for Rayner and the government who think the Boys under Butcher are loose cannons.


Fifth: I would hughie have Hughie sneak into the White House during the Homelanders siege. As Blacknoir is explaining what he did, Hughie would appear and also confess what he did. Namely setting Jack up for the murder of the prostitute, leaking the footage of Jack with the prostitutes and ultimately killing Terror. He did this because he knew that Butcher didn't want the confrontation the Homelander. Butcher knew that that would be the end of everything and Butcher doesn't want his war to end. Hughie realized that Butcher would nerver let him have his revenge on A-train just like Mallory would never let Butcher have the Homelander. So Hughie pushed both parties over the edge.
After revealing this two things happen. Homelander attacks Blacknoir and Butcher attacks Hughie who shoots Butcher in the stomach with a armor piercing bullet because he isn't dumb enough to bring a crowbar to a supefight. Butcher knocks hughies weapon out of his hands and swings at him again. Hughie get's inside the swing and jams a knife in Butchers bicep and Butcher drops the crowbar.
The two fight some more and both get injured pretty badly. Interspersed with this are scenes of Blacknoir and the Homelander fucking each other up.
In the meantime we see that A-train and Annie are both in the white house as well. Hughie didn't kill A-train before and Annie didn't fly off after Maeve was killed. Afraid of the Homelander they both followed him to the White House. There A-train decides that he has had enough this and tells Annie that he is going to surrender to the Army and tells her he is sorry for everything.

At that point Hughie stumbles in and breaks both of A-trains legs with the crowbar he took from Butcher. He start beating A-train up when Annie begs him to stop. Stunned by suddenly seeing her Hughie pauses and Annie tells him that she loves him and can they please just go away from all of this. Hughie is in doubt and drops the crowbar and tells Annie he loves her when Butcher appears behind Annie and punches a hole in her chest.
Annie is dying in Hughies arms and Butcher laughs and says she's just a supe whore. Hughie shouts in rage and beats Butcher to death with the crowbar. He then takes Annie in his arms and while Blacknoir is being shot to pieces on the frontlawn. Red River personel come in and take Hughie in.

They take him to the office of Stillwell who is looking none to pleased.

It's getting late here in the Netherlands, so that's it for now. I've got some other ideas about the Boys but let's first see how you guys react.

Peace from Green Giant

Mr Beer
05-24-2012, 06:58 PM
I would have enjoyed this version a lot more than the real one.

Green Giant
05-25-2012, 03:05 AM
Thank you very much.

Simon Rogerson
05-25-2012, 10:40 AM
It's an interesting take on The Boys for movie version. I've often thought that the reason The Boys would never make a good movie is that one one of its conceits would simply be unnaceptable to the American public. I'm referring to the idea of creating an alternative 9/11 and involving superheroes in a botched rescue. There's just too much for people to get their heads around, and film is probably the wrong medium. It's too hung up on the visual details, and has a way of deadening satire. One of the problem with The Boys is that the satire has been drowned by a Pretty Good Story, and my betting is that in the transfer to screen you'd lose pretty much everything that's good about the book.

With an R-rated comic you can just about get away with it... but a movie? I think a lot of people would be disconcerted, others would be confused and quite a few would simply be offended. That's not such a problem for a comic book, but it would take at the very least $50 million to make a decent fist of The Boys movie, and there would be a massive risk that people would never go to see it based on adverse word of mouth.

One day, someone brave and idiotic will make a movie from an Ennis story, then the Hollywood machine will crank up and do an Alan Moore on him. The Pro will be a trilogy directed by Peter Jackson; Spielberg will do 'Crossed' in 3D. But not yet.

Anyway, Simon Pegg's too old now. He's Scottie, for f**k's sake.

Kamakazi
05-27-2012, 04:13 PM
One day, someone brave and idiotic will make a movie from an Ennis story,

It happened already. "Punisher: War Zone." And while I kind of liked the movie, it suffered from the same problem that every Ennis book NOT illustrated by Dillon suffers from: the violence came off as repulsive and hackneyed instead of funny.

Simon Rogerson
05-27-2012, 05:24 PM
It happened already. "Punisher: War Zone." And while I kind of liked the movie, it suffered from the same problem that every Ennis book NOT illustrated by Dillon suffers from: the violence came off as repulsive and hackneyed instead of funny.

Oh yeah, the scriptwriter took all the worst ideas of the Max run and worked them into a custerf**k of artless violence. I kind of enjoyed it too, but I showered afterwards. I was doing Ennis a favour by not remembering that movie, not to mention the masterpiece that is the 'Stitched' short, directed by the man himself. I cannot offer a critique to do justice to that little masterpiece.