BSG: Tech Journal -- Realm Press

[Raymar3d]

Hello,

My name is Ken Thomson, and I was one of two artists who worked on the unpublished "Battlestar Galactica: Technical Journal" for Realm Press.

If anyone with Dynamite is interested in seeing this work published, we would be most interested in seeing it in print. All artistic rights reverted back to us.

Additionally, the 3d Model of the fleetship Celestra is one that I built for the miniseries.

I absolutely love your Battlestar and Red Sonja series of comics. :)

Sincerely,

Ken

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/media/folder_95/display_948888.jpg

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http://www.demonslayers.org/BSG2ndPoster.jpg

[Skriker]

I for one would really like to see this get published!

[martok2112]

Shaweet!!!! :)

[Tommy]

:)

Welcome ot the Dynamite forums, Raymar3d! :D

If you are curious about submitting this awesome-looking work to Dynamite, make sure you take a look at the submissions guidelines, available here:


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Tommy. :cool:

[Agent Scooter X]

Hey Ken.

Longtime no see. How ya been ?

[Raymar3d]

:)

Welcome ot the Dynamite forums, Raymar3d! :D

If you are curious about submitting this awesome-looking work to Dynamite, make sure you take a look at the submissions guidelines, available here:


SUBMISSION GUIDELINES (http://www.dynamiteentertainment.com/htmlfiles/submissions.html)



Tommy. :cool:


Will do, thanks!

Ken

[Raymar3d]

Hey Ken.

Longtime no see. How ya been ?

Doing fine, Scooter, and you? It has been awhile!

[Lone Ranger]

I'd buy a copy for myself and another for a good friend of mine who is a diehard Classic BSG purist.

[KenaiMike]

What is BSG: The Second Coming?

Is that some project Richard Hatch was working on trying to resurrect the series? I know he was working for a long time trying to get it back on the air and all, I'm just not familiar with it.

KenaiMike

[martok2112]

BSG: The Second Coming was Richard Hatch's proposed Galactica continuation story. He managed to secure a lot of help, and even put up his own finances for a very professionally done trailer. However, he and Glen Larson apparently butted heads over the direction of continuing Galactica, and ultimately, Universal seemed to turn Richard down. He is allowed to show the preview only at sci-fi cons. He is not permitted to even run it on the internet...he would have to pay the actors involved according to guild/union rules...and he had managed to get John Colicos and Terry Carter (Baltar and Col. Tigh) involved in the production.

All told, basically he lost a LOT after his idea was shot down...and that is sad, because I think second coming would've been a helluva continuation tale.

It was a wonderfully done preview too.

Respectfully,
Martok2112

[KenaiMike]

BSG: The Second Coming was Richard Hatch's proposed Galactica continuation story. He managed to secure a lot of help, and even put up his own finances for a very professionally done trailer. However, he and Glen Larson apparently butted heads over the direction of continuing Galactica, and ultimately, Universal seemed to turn Richard down. He is allowed to show the preview only at sci-fi cons. He is not permitted to even run it on the internet...he would have to pay the actors involved according to guild/union rules...and he had managed to get John Colicos and Terry Carter (Baltar and Col. Tigh) involved in the production.

All told, basically he lost a LOT after his idea was shot down...and that is sad, because I think second coming would've been a helluva continuation tale.

It was a wonderfully done preview too.

Respectfully,
Martok2112

I've met Hatch a few times at the Motor City Comic Con several times (back when I lived in Michigan, not Alaska :eek: ) but I never did see the preview movie. He always kind of came off as a little bit of a loser to me since I was never a big fan of the original TV show (love the new one though). I do have to give him credit for working so darn hard over the years to get the show back on the air, and at least the producers were cool enough to get him a spot on it (Zarek who's actually turned out to be a pretty cool and complicated character).

One funny story, since my friend was a huge original BSG fan I stood in line with him while he was getting some of the original casts autographs (on a baseball of all things...) and we had just came from getting the black guy's autograph and got up to Hatch's table and he asked my friend "How much did (so and so, the black guy) charge for his autograph?" My friend lied and said "he did it for free". Hatch kind of shrugged his shoulders and apparently didn't want to be out-done so he signed the baseball for free! We laughed our butts off at that one. There must be some kind of rivalry between the old cast members there.

KenaiMike

[Agent Scooter X]

I've met Hatch a few times at the Motor City Comic Con several times (back when I lived in Michigan, not Alaska :eek: ) but I never did see the preview movie. He always kind of came off as a little bit of a loser to me since I was never a big fan of the original TV show (love the new one though). I do have to give him credit for working so darn hard over the years to get the show back on the air, and at least the producers were cool enough to get him a spot on it (Zarek who's actually turned out to be a pretty cool and complicated character).

One funny story, since my friend was a huge original BSG fan I stood in line with him while he was getting some of the original casts autographs (on a baseball of all things...) and we had just came from getting the black guy's autograph and got up to Hatch's table and he asked my friend "How much did (so and so, the black guy) charge for his autograph?" My friend lied and said "he did it for free". Hatch kind of shrugged his shoulders and apparently didn't want to be out-done so he signed the baseball for free! We laughed our butts off at that one. There must be some kind of rivalry between the old cast members there.

KenaiMike

Richard Hatch's efforts to revive BSG seems more of his own self serving agenda than it it was for BSG and it's fan.

If he really cared about BSG and it's fans he would have never bad mouthed Brian Singer and Tom DeSanto and their production and use his influence to turn fans against them in his newsletters. In fact I still think that he owes them a public apology.

As for the producers giving him a role on TNS, it was nothing cool on their behalf. It was just stunt casting and they wanted to use Hatch to win over some TOS fans and other PR reasons.

I wish I can comment on how good the trailer for BSG:T2C but I can't. When I attended a Con in NJ a few years back, he told me he didn't want to show it because he wasn't satisfied with the sound system.

As for not releasing the trailer on the web, I also have a hard time buying his reasons. It seems to be nothing more than a fan film (but on a bigger scale) and I don't see the Star Trek:The New Voyages guys encountering the same problems considering that they too have professional actors (Walter Koenig and Decker) on their fan films.

[martok2112]

As for the producers giving him a role on TNS, it was nothing cool on their behalf. It was just stunt casting and they wanted to use Hatch to win over some TOS fans and other PR reasons.

If it were a one or two time role on the new show, I would probably say that "stunt casting" would be a more accurate term. But the character has definitely grown, and Richard Hatch has so embraced the character of Zarek that it has transcended that.





As for not releasing the trailer on the web, I also have a hard time buying his reasons. It seems to be nothing more than a fan film (but on a bigger scale) and I don't see the Star Trek:The New Voyages guys encountering the same problems considering that they too have professional actors (Walter Koenig and Decker) on their fan films.

That is a pretty interesting fine line, Scooter. Where does the need for compensation start and stop when it comes to such projects?

Respectfully,
Martok2112

[Tommy]

:)

Something which just occurred to me...

I'm noticing there are a large number of "insider" acronyms, abbreviations, and such among the BSG fanbase which refer to various incarnations of the property, elements of it, etc., etc.

If one or more of you guys who're "In The Know" regarding all these could compile them in a thread which I can stick at the head of the Battlestar Galactica section of these forums, it would be a real bonus for those who are unfamiliar with the lingo. ;)


Tommy. :cool:

[martok2112]

Personal note: I hope this thread doesn't degrade into another round of Richard Hatch/TNS bashing. I'm sure the originating poster didn't have this in mind. :)

[KenaiMike]

If it were a one or two time role on the new show, I would probably say that "stunt casting" would be a more accurate term. But the character has definitely grown, and Richard Hatch has so embraced the character of Zarek that it has transcended that.


I agree, not being a big fan of TOS I thought that Hatch was just looking out for himself but that may have only been because I wasn't really following what was going on. I think he's done an excellent job as far as acting goes on the show and I like the character of Zarek. Perhaps he's become a lightning rod for fans of TOS who hate the new one, maybe they think he's sold out or something.

KenaiMike

[martok2112]

Many hardcore TOS traditionalists do think he's sold out. They think that he's spouting TNS's supposedly anti-original series PR.

From what I've heard him say, Richard simply thinks that the new show is tackling issues that the original would NEVER have been allowed to in its day, and its provided him a real opportunity to flex his acting chops, and unfortunately, some fans are taking it as a slam on the original series, and that he's turned his back on them....sold out, as it were.

There's a difference between "the original show couldn't tackle the tough issues", and "the original show sucked." The first is not a slam...just a statement of fact as a result of the era it was conceived in. The second remark IS a slam, obvious to the most casual observer.

If Richard really wanted to slam the original series, he'd be making references to feathered hair, disco lights, monkeys in robot suits, and the like. But from what I've read, he's made no such statements.

Not trying to be a Richard Hatch apologist....just making unbiased observations. :)

Back to the original subject at hand.... The BSG Tech Journal looks frackin' sweet...and this would be a worthy publication. :)

Respectfully,
Martok2112

[Tommy]

:)


Back to the original subject at hand....
Good point... ;)



<ADMIN>For wider discussion on the merits or flaws of Richard Hatch and his artistic efforts, posters are hereby kindly advised to seek one of the Sci-Fi/BSG fansites.</ADMIN>



Tommy. :cool:

[martok2112]

That's good advice....and knowing's half the battle...


G.I. JOOOOOOEEEEE!!!!!!


:D

Martok2112

[KenaiMike]

Yeah, I think we put this puppy to bed.

KenaiMike

[Raymar3d]

Hey guys,

Sorry it's been a long time since I read this forum, but having read some of the posts about Richard, I just wanted to tell you guys, you really have him wrong.

I've known him for eight years now, and for five of those years, we worked together on Battlestar and Great War of Magellan.

I would not have spent that kind of time working for someone who was self-serving and didn't care about what I did, which was making a good production that would be something the FANS would enjoy.

I suppose that I am also to blame for "selling out" to the new series, as I made a ship for it. I also spoke to Ron Moore on the phone several times, and suggested that the cycles of history repeat themselves, and if he diverged more from the original series, it would be more plausible that they could both have happened in the SAME universe. He later incorporated this into "It's all happened before. It will all happen again." I was rather stoked that he did it. He didn't have to, but he told me he liked the idea.

You can't know the amount of time Richard, I, and the other members of the team spent on ideas for Battlestar, but it was a LOT of time. Richard used to come to my house and work with me and the other members of the team. We worked hard for a dream, and there was nothing but committment to doing it right. One of our friends who worked with us during the Magellan project was killed by a hit and run driver in Valencia California. I was already in Texas, and couldn't be there, but it really broke him up. Brian was a great guy, and the world is a lesser place without him.

Richard Hatch was no more self-serving than anyone has a right to be when pursuing a dream. There is nothing dishonorable about the man. He is my friend. I have a lot of respect for him, and would work with him again, any time.

Sincerely,

Ken Thomson

[martok2112]

Well told, Ken. :)