Warriors of Mars (lets discuss it here)

[DavidA]

I lost interest in this title through the long wait between issues. Reading it through at last, it's not bad at all.

I'd like to see a follow up.

[ChastMastr]

I also don't care for the idea that Mars' (and Earth's) future leads to this nasty dystopia. I'd prefer an unwritten future to a nasty one.

[Ralok]

I also don't care for the idea that Mars' (and Earth's) future leads to this nasty dystopia. I'd prefer an unwritten future to a nasty one.

then you are going to have to blame burroughs for that, read "the moon maid" for perspective.

[positronic]

then you are going to have to blame burroughs for that, read "the moon maid" for perspective.

Different dystopia, though. Warriors of Mars is DE's own original conception that has nothing to do with Burroughs' alternate future. In Burroughs' Moon trilogy, there is a war that lasts from 1917 to 1967, ending in total unilateral disarmament. By 2025, contact has been established with Barsoom, and knowledge of the Barsoomian 8th ray allows Earth to build its first space ship, "The Barsoom". It isn't destined to reach Mars, however. Forced down on the Moon, the crew of "The Barsoom" discovers the Moon has an interior world (like Pellucidar), the native Moon Men race of warlike Kalkars become aware of Earth, and in short order (by 2050) the Kalkars invade and conquer the now-disarmed Earth, where they hold sway for nearly 400 years, having forced humanity back into a pre-technological tribal state. A revolution is begun against the Kalkars around 2120 that will take over 300 years to complete. Up until the final victory of humanity in 2430, humans commonly believe the Earth to be flat.

[Ralok]

Different dystopia, though. Warriors of Mars is DE's own original conception that has nothing to do with Burroughs' alternate future. In Burroughs' Moon trilogy, there is a war that lasts from 1917 to 1967, ending in total unilateral disarmament. By 2025, contact has been established with Barsoom, and knowledge of the Barsoomian 8th ray allows Earth to build its first space ship, "The Barsoom". It isn't destined to reach Mars, however. Forced down on the Moon, the crew of "The Barsoom" discovers the Moon has an interior world (like Pellucidar), the native Moon Men race of warlike Kalkars become aware of Earth, and in short order (by 2050) the Kalkars invade and conquer the now-disarmed Earth, where they hold sway for nearly 400 years, having forced humanity back into a pre-technological tribal state. A revolution is begun against the Kalkars around 2120 that will take over 300 years to complete. Up until the final victory of humanity in 2430, humans commonly believe the Earth to be flat.

this takes place long after the year 2430 and humanity has recovered . . . at least thati s what I thought :/

that is why they go that whole lost era idea isnt it?

[positronic]

this takes place long after the year 2430 and humanity has recovered . . . at least thati s what I thought :/

that is why they go that whole lost era idea isnt it?

Well, it's "1000 years after the time of John Carter", so I guess that puts it about 500 years after humans throw off the yoke of Kalkar oppression on Earth. Still, I didn't see any veiled references to ERB's Moon trilogy, so it's doubtful the writer had that in mind or was taking it into account. No real reason is given for Earth declaring war on Barsoom. Nothing about the story made a lot of sense, although as I stated, it seemed like a typical opening chapter of a much longer (4-5 issue) story arc. Presumably the answers to these mysteries might have been forthcoming had the title not been unceremoniously cancelled.

I liked the cover a lot, though. It made the story look like something completely different -- an old movie serial.

[positronic]

Come to think of it, the Moon Maid/Moon Men/Red Hawk trilogy is public domain, so a much better story might be constructed, something in the vein of "Warlord of Mars vs. the Moon Men". A while back, Dark Horse did a Tarzan vs. the Moon Men story that was actually pretty good.

[Ralok]

Come to think of it, the Moon Maid/Moon Men/Red Hawk trilogy is public domain, so a much better story might be constructed, something in the vein of "Warlord of Mars vs. the Moon Men". A while back, Dark Horse did a Tarzan vs. the Moon Men story that was actually pretty good.

damned good, it also included some some great references to barsoom . . . including the appearance of a white ape.

I am not a fan of the latter two books in the moon trilogy, they certainly could undergo significant renovations to the story to make them a lot better