warriors of mars, completely confusing preview of confusion

[Ralok]

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/12/...n-jack-jadson/

I just . .. dont get it, why turn the hithers into red martians, and the thithers into greens . . .

NO NO NO, dont get me wrong it looks great, and I like that the reds and greens are now getting names :O

it is just odd, because the hithers were white martians (think orovar), and the thithers were red martians (think . . . RED MARTIANS)


so . . . both martian groups in gullivar could have been races from barsoom . . . . I dont . . . .

this seems really . . . out of the way . . . . you get what I am saying? it feels like you guys went out of your way . . . . I mean . . . . I feel like you ignored a really obvious connection beetween gullivar of mars and john carter of mars . . . . the presence of red and white martians

[positronic]

No reason why the Hither people and the Thither people couldn't have been completely separate races, either. Or perhaps evolutionary offshoots of ERB's established races. There are definite differences between the Thither people and Burroughs' red martians.

[Ralok]

No reason why the Hither people and the Thither people couldn't have been completely separate races, either. Or perhaps evolutionary offshoots of ERB's established races. There are definite differences between the Thither people and Burroughs' red martians.

I see what you are saying, I would have preferred if they were evolutionary offshoots, such things have been seen a few times in burroughs works. The therns for example, and the red martians themselves!

There is one individual red in ERB's work that I would have tried to connect with the thithers, the jed of the small city of ghasta who almost perfectly fits the description of the thither folk and has completely unexplained origins!

I would have vastly preferred if the thithers were a dying group of white martians under the oppression of a degenerate group of reds

but at the same time I appreciate the inversion of the barsoomian norm here, with the greens actuallys oppressing the red martians . . . the greens here are horribly deformed, showing what I can only assume is the consequence of them interbreeding with the reds and themselves for too long.

I welcome the opportunity to call the red martians hithers, and the green martians tithers it has been too long that they not have names for their species!!!!!

still . . . . . they did ignore a rather obvious connection, and I have heard alot of talk about how "we found a connection nobody expected" or something along those lines . . . but all I have seen thus far is one removed connection

[Ralok]

and whats odd, is that this page doesnt match what is written here at all

http://www.dynamite.net/htmlfiles/vi...13018677500111

"Before John Carter another earthman visited the Red planet: Lt. Gullivar Jones. Now these legendary warriors are brought together for the first time!
When Lt. Guillivar Jones happens upon a mysterious old man with a beautiful carpet he soon finds himself transported through space and time to the planet Mars where he meets the beautiful Princess Hera and a ferocious tribe of Red Martians bent on capturing her!"

how is it that this is accurate, but the comic is not?

I hope that maybe this preview is outdated, or not providing all the information

hmmmmm considering the date it was posted . . . I am going to say it is outdated, and perhaps they have repaired the errors we have seen in these pages of this preview! I mean it couldnt be that hard to replace some green martians, and recolor some reds could it?

Maybe thats why it is taking so long to get out .. . . . well we shall wait and see

[positronic]

C'mon, Ralok, the preview was only a few pages, unscripted! I think you're assuming you know too much about the story already. Wait until next Wednesday and read the whole book.

[Ralok]

C'mon, Ralok, the preview was only a few pages, unscripted! I think you're assuming you know too much about the story already. Wait until next Wednesday and read the whole book.

its just . .. the hithers are supposed to be white . . . about half a foot shorter than gullivar . . . . . . . making them red was a serious bad move!!!! but like I said, the preview we have seen that made them red is pretty old, it could have been fixed and hopefully was fixedd. . . . .

I dont know why there are green martians at all in this comic, and they seem to be taking the place of the thithers and that irks me


lets be fair . . . . Gullivar of mars isnt that good, but I still feel the need to pay respect to the original book

but if it isnt exact, I shall view it as the gullivar of the John Carter universe, logic stands to reason that in the vast multiverse people will exsist in alternate realities, in the original book Gullivar traveled to his realities mars, in barsooms realitiy Gullivar traveled to his realities mars . . . it is logic!

so i am not thrashing it . .. . . I just think that they had some misteps!

AND I REALLY REALLY REALLY HOPE that they include some of gullivars stuff, the bird of death, the giant rats . . these things are fairly barsoomian, we have rodents on barsoom of unusual size . . . and the bird of death is my favorite thing that can be connected to burroughs . . . not exactly

the hithers believe that when they die the spirits of the dead come back in this bird, similiar to how the therns believe they are ressurected in the bodies of animals!

Both are white martians that believe in reincarnation as animals! GIVE THAT SOME THOUGHT

[Ralok]

I also cant help but be dissapointed in the artists depiction of gullivars sword

it should have been more like this

http://arms2armor.com/Swords/1852navy.htm

and being something he brought from earth with him, I feel like it would have been a very personal object! and a unique artifact on barsoom!

[positronic]

Here's the thing. The preview pages are unscripted. You are ASSUMING Hithers and Thithers. Well, you may be right, but there's just as much chance that you're wrong. Don't start lambasting the writer and artist until you can confirm what you THINK are mistakes are actual mistakes.

Then again, since this is a kind of "crisis on two Mars" smooshed-together universe, nothing's probably going to be 100% accurate, and we've got to be mentally prepared for that going into this thing.

[Ralok]

Here's the thing. The preview pages are unscripted. You are ASSUMING Hithers and Thithers. Well, you may be right, but there's just as much chance that you're wrong. Don't start lambasting the writer and artist until you can confirm what you THINK are mistakes are actual mistakes.

Then again, since this is a kind of "crisis on two Mars" smooshed-together universe, nothing's probably going to be 100% accurate, and we've got to be mentally prepared for that going into this thing.

I have read the original book, the scenes here are verbatim the scenes in the book just the martians are inexplicably the wrong species!

[nickybdynamite]

Hi All,

The preview had the wrong colors, the primitive martians were corrected to red for the final.

best

Nick