Thanks for the link. The article makes note of something I'd been wondering about for a decade-and-a-half, why is the magazine (and when exactly did they change from newspaper-type comic section to magazine format?) still called 2000 AD? I'd have imagined, at some point before or by 1999, an odometer-style "2000" AD logo slowly advancing the first digit from 2 to 3, with the first Prog published in 2000 changing to a an LED display-inspired 3000 AD logo. Does Tharg imagine his readership is so entrenched in the classic strips that the change would have been just too much? Or perhaps it's because the time period of Dredd has been so well documented, I'm not sure. Calling the mag 3000 AD might make Dredd's adventures seem slightly antiquated?
The article also had a link to the official 2000 AD home page, and I note that they offer (just like DC and Marvel) digital downloads. A piece of info I'll just file away for now while I try to decide what tablet style device I might eventually purchase. The wide variety of print formats (many different page sizes, newspaper, comic book, magazine, and graphic album formats) that 2000 AD material has already appeared in makes me less attached to the physical form than I am to American floppy comics and trade collections. Still haven't quite made up my mind about how I feel about the digital format, but seeing as how I haven't followed 2000 AD for a number of years, I might be more inclined to give it a try. Oddly, while some individual back issues seem to be available for digital download, I couldn't find any digital subscriptions for 2000 AD or Judge Dredd Megazine. And the physical issues are actually cheaper than the digital ones!? (Of course, were I to order the physical issues directly from Rebellion, the shipping would make them more expensive.) 115 pounds UK for a physical subscription to 2000 AD; 200 pounds for overseas customers (that's over $314 dollars US!) Can't believe they don't offer digital subs at a reduced rate (and one that doesn't cost any more for overseas customers). Guess I'll wait a while for this. I could get the physical mags through Diamond Comics Distributors in the US... but a copy of Judge Dredd Megazine costs $12 US, about twice the price of a comparable magazine over here.
Within the last few months I did purchase the trade collection "The Complete Alan Moore Future Shocks".
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I think the other characters that were hugely popular back in the earliest days were Ro-Jaws and Hammerstein (who were actually originally from Star-Lord, of course), and probably Robo-Hunter. Later, of course, came Rogue, Slaime and Nemesis, but they were more of a 'second wave'.
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In a way, I prefer it because they feel like evolved versions of the actual characters. I understand it may be Damian Wayne under the cowl and I think that's interesting. I would have KILLED for Bruce Wayne to stay dead because his death forced changes in the Batman family, but of course...and they can have a bit more liberty with Earth-2 characters, not unlike killing (at least for now) Ultimate Peter Parker.
By far the biggest disappointment to me about DC's New 52 is the way they've destroyed the legacy aspect (JSA to JLA to Titans to Young Justice to Teen Titans again) of characters like Flash, Green Arrow, Teen Titans, etc. Batman and Green Lantern still retain a fair chunk of their histories and continuities, but the rest of the DCU was decimated. Some of my favorite characters like Wally West and Donna Troy got bulldozed over in the renovation.
Last edited by positronic; 03-08-2012 at 06:41 AM.
Basically, the characters in the Batman and Green Lantern books got off without a reboot because a) they were selling particularly well by comparison to the rest of the line and b) Geoff Johns likes Green Lantern. To me, it all just smacks of desperation, and if they had to destroy their entire history, it would have been fairer if Batman and GL hadn't been spared the indignity, either. I also find it telling that they've now closed down the DC message boards, leaving no 'official' forum for fans to air their views, and that the option of emailing DC directly no longer exists on their revamped website. The attitude seems to me to be "we don't care what you think, just shut up and buy our books".
I can't find it in me to blame Geoff Johns for the New 52 reboot, though. If you look at his career at DC from 1999 to present, he was the go-to "Mr. Fixit" of the DCU who made older poor selling characters and concepts popular again, from JSA, to Teen Titans, to Hal Jordan, to Hawkman, to Brainiac and the Legion of Super-Heroes, to the DC multiverse, to Booster Gold, to Barry Allen, to Superman: Secret Origin... and he did it while respecting the work of those who'd come before him. I suspect this reboot was largely masterminded by Dan Didio and Jim Lee in order to impress their new corporate bosses. While patting Johns on the back, giving him a new title and a raise, they also deconstructed 90% of his work (sparing only Green Lantern) from the last decade or so.
Last edited by positronic; 03-08-2012 at 02:49 PM.
Depending what interviews you were reading, apparently Dick Grayson WAS Batman for a while. But the various crisisisises never happened. So...what happened to Bruce Wayne during that time? At the end of the day, my answer was "who cares?".
So going back to Positronic's post to me, the Earth-2 stuff sounds like a complete reboot, not a partial one. So if they're going to start from scratch, I don't mind hopping on.
I was looking forward to the Earth2 /JSA stuff but after having seen the new look for Jay Garrick I'm very scared. I'm trying to stay positive but . . .
Always remember, Murphy was an optimist