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    Sales for Black Bat is low, but we can only hope that Dynamite is making a solid profit off of it despite the low sales. If the book generates cash than it will probably go on, but I guess time will tell....
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    Quote Originally Posted by pulphero View Post
    I was going to say the same thing about Bendis... but why rain on someone else's parade, since neither of these possibilities is a realistic source of worry.
    Yeah I usually am not a fan of Bendis either. I think he could be good on Hornet though, because his Daredevil run was amazing.

    What do you think of Ron Fortier's campaign to get Dynamite to let him write Hornet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnpisme View Post
    Yeah I usually am not a fan of Bendis either. I think he could be good on Hornet though, because his Daredevil run was amazing.

    What do you think of Ron Fortier's campaign to get Dynamite to let him write Hornet?
    I agree, Daredevil represents the best of Bendis' Marvel universe work. The crime genre/street-level characters seem to be his forte. Powers is pretty good, too. Bendis is really good in the characterization and dialogue departments, and he is a master of working "the plot hook" that reels you in and keeps you reading. His major weakness is in resolving his big story arcs - his climaxes are usually weak and unsatisfying, and poorly thought-out logically (with an over-reliance on the cliche of a 'shocking' death of a character). More often than not, his climaxes aren't really even endings per se, more like segues into the next big event or story direction. Maybe that's why his Daredevil is so well regarded... he never ended it himself, but tossed the ball into Brubaker's court!

    I REALLY hope Fortier's campaign succeeds! And there are a lot of good and very experienced writers out there that haven't lost their chops, but are no longer being employed by Marvel and DC. I think those are an untapped resource that Dynamite should take advantage of, given that their page rates are going to be much lower than the 'marquee' names out there. Yeah, the big names are an automatic draw for audience share, but balancing that against the cost factor and availability, and the fact that DE utilizing these older writers will draw audience from the same segment of older readers that fondly remember some of the classic characters DE licenses, I think it's a good bet. To the younger readers who don't recognize these older names, it's no different than using a younger upcoming writer who hasn't made a reputation for himself yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulphero View Post
    I agree, Daredevil represents the best of Bendis' Marvel universe work. The crime genre/street-level characters seem to be his forte. Powers is pretty good, too. Bendis is really good in the characterization and dialogue departments, and he is a master of working "the plot hook" that reels you in and keeps you reading. His major weakness is in resolving his big story arcs - his climaxes are usually weak and unsatisfying, and poorly thought-out logically (with an over-reliance on the cliche of a 'shocking' death of a character). More often than not, his climaxes aren't really even endings per se, more like segues into the next big event or story direction. Maybe that's why his Daredevil is so well regarded... he never ended it himself, but tossed the ball into Brubaker's court!

    I REALLY hope Fortier's campaign succeeds! And there are a lot of good and very experienced writers out there that haven't lost their chops, but are no longer being employed by Marvel and DC. I think those are an untapped resource that Dynamite should take advantage of, given that their page rates are going to be much lower than the 'marquee' names out there. Yeah, the big names are an automatic draw for audience share, but balancing that against the cost factor and availability, and the fact that DE utilizing these older writers will draw audience from the same segment of older readers that fondly remember some of the classic characters DE licenses, I think it's a good bet. To the younger readers who don't recognize these older names, it's no different than using a younger upcoming writer who hasn't made a reputation for himself yet.
    Yeah, regarding Fortier I totally agree. I would add that I believe he wouldn't be doing this if he didn't think he had a really good story to tell, which is most important, in my mind.

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    Default Black Bat #8

    What an issue! Not much action here but it was more or less a love story with some interesting overtones. Can't wait for you all go read it!!
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    Another good issue, though more of a 'transitional' one, setting up the next episode.Best DE title atm.

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    Default Black Bat #11

    [img]http://www.dynamite.com/previews/C72513020461511011/BlackBat011CovLee.jpg[/img]
    Price: $3.99
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    SKU: C72513020461511011
    Rating: Teen +
    Covers: Jae Lee
    Writer: Brian Buccellato
    Art: Ronan Cliquet
    Genre: Super-Hero, Adventure
    Publication Date: Apr 2014
    Format: Comic Book
    Page Count: 32 pages
    UPC: 725130204615 11011
    ON SALE DATE: April 2
    Black Bat has managed to toe the line throughout his quest for redemption. But when someone close to him dies, will he finally cross that line and become a killer? Also, Oliver Snate's mystery guardian angel pulls back the curtain and finally reveals himself... propelling this story towards its gut-wrenching conclusion.
    http://www.dynamite.com/htmlfiles/vi...13020461511011

    Actually, I believe this is suppose to be coming out on June 4th?
    http://www.tfaw.com/Comics/Profile/B...at-11___447136

    [img]http://d2lzb5v10mb0lj.cloudfront.net/covers_tfaw/400/fe/feb141211.jpg[/img]

    [img]http://www.dynamite.com/previews/C72513020461511011/BlackBat011CovIncenSyaf.jpg[/img]

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    Default Black Bat #12 (Final Issue)

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    SKU: C72513020461512011
    Rating: Teen +
    Covers: Jae Lee
    Writer: Brian Buccellato
    Art: Ronan Cliquet
    Genre: Super-Hero, Adventure
    Publication Date: May 2014
    Format: Comic Book
    Page Count: 32 pages
    UPC: 725130204615 12011
    ON SALE DATE: May 7
    FINAL ISSUE! In the final chapter to this story, the Black Bat is confronted by the unforeseen consequences of his vigilante quest for redemption. He comes face to face with the shadowy villain that has been pulling all of the strings, and must decide how far he is willing to go to save the city.
    http://www.dynamite.com/htmlfiles/vi...13020461512011

    Was suppose to be out May 7th, but we haven't even seen #11 yet . . . comiclist.com has it coming out on July 16th at present.
    http://www.tfaw.com/Comics/Profile/B...er%29___449304

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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    [img]http://www.dynamite.com/previews/C72513020461511011/BlackBat011CovLee.jpg[/img]


    http://www.dynamite.com/htmlfiles/vi...13020461511011

    Actually, I believe this is suppose to be coming out on June 4th?
    http://www.tfaw.com/Comics/Profile/B...at-11___447136

    [img]http://d2lzb5v10mb0lj.cloudfront.net/covers_tfaw/400/fe/feb141211.jpg[/img]

    [img]http://www.dynamite.com/previews/C72513020461511011/BlackBat011CovIncenSyaf.jpg[/img]
    On sale tomorrow (June 4th).

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    SPOILERS AHOY!!













    See, this is where I have a problem with the Black Bat. He's no hero. In this issue, he shoots a cop in the head. Not a corrupt, dirty cop. Just a cop doing his job. Shot dead in the line of duty. It's this kind of thing ("heroes" that aren't, really) that puts me off DC's New 52 (not coincidentally, Brian Buccellato's other job). Even The Punisher has a better moral code than the Black Bat. I can't get behind a protagonist killing the innocent because it's expedient to the situation. Bad guys, sure. They knew the risks when they committed the crimes.
    Last edited by pulphero; 06-04-2014 at 01:46 AM.

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