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    Quote Originally Posted by ChastMastr View Post
    Hopefully in his own nudie covers this time.
    "Seems unlikely" would be an understatement.

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    Hey, we did have one... the excellent alternate cover for issue #13. It could happen again--and should!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChastMastr View Post
    Hey, we did have one... the excellent alternate cover for issue #13. It could happen again--and should!
    But no full frontal. You should probably pick up Richard Corben's Den, if you haven't already. Plenty of penises in that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulphero View Post
    But no full frontal. You should probably pick up Richard Corben's Den, if you haven't already. Plenty of penises in that one.
    Oh, that's fine, I'm OK without full frontal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulphero View Post
    But no full frontal. You should probably pick up Richard Corben's Den, if you haven't already. Plenty of penises in that one.
    Oh, that's fine, I'm OK without full frontal. I'm not looking for Warlord of Mars to be porn--but definitely, in a set of stories in which the male main character essentially runs around more lightly clad than, say, Tarzan (Tarzan in flappy loincloth, John Carter in something like a Speedo), it's a little odd for the focus on the covers to be as much on the female lead (who has her own series as well, after all) as possible. At this point in time we should really be OK with equal time for male nudity or suggested nudity. (I actually didn't know that the female-centric risque covers showed full frontal--I assumed it was just breasts.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChastMastr View Post
    Oh, that's fine, I'm OK without full frontal. I'm not looking for Warlord of Mars to be porn--but definitely, in a set of stories in which the male main character essentially runs around more lightly clad than, say, Tarzan (Tarzan in flappy loincloth, John Carter in something like a Speedo), it's a little odd for the focus on the covers to be as much on the female lead (who has her own series as well, after all) as possible. At this point in time we should really be OK with equal time for male nudity or suggested nudity. (I actually didn't know that the female-centric risque covers showed full frontal--I assumed it was just breasts.)
    Oh, there's nothing 'pornographic' about Corben's Den (which is a ERB pastiche to begin with). But there is unabashed, no holds barred nudity aplenty.

    As for Dynamite's covers, it's really no mystery. Sorry, but demographics are against you. The majority of comics readers (at least, fantasy-adventure type comics) have always been heterosexual males (and perhaps just as importantly, so have the publishers and artists). Historically, you really can't argue it, it's been an accepted industry practice (with some escalation over time). Hey, they had to write it into the Comics Code, but that only slowed things down for a decade or two. Or made them sneaky, like the 'wholesome' Betty & Veronica swimsuit covers. And covers sell comics.

    Go back and look at the Golden Age stuff like Fiction House's JUNGLE COMICS. Nominally, Ka'anga (a typical Tarzan knockoff) was the the cover featured series, but every one of those covers featured his busty, bikini-clad mate, Helene, prominently in the foreground. Visually, boobs are it. In mainstream comics, you may be able to get away with nipples on a 'limited variant', but showing vagina would be crossing a line (and really, it's not as visually interesting as boobs). So we're at about the same level as what HBO or Showtime can get away with.

    Funny story -- last year, a friend of mine, while we we flipping through comics together, launched into a 5-minute diatribe (unprovoked but absolutely sincere AND hilarious) after seeing one too many full-page ads in DC Comics (they had been running in every DC book for months) for the CW series ARROW featuring a shirtless male actor with rippling abs. "I don't need to have to look at that, every time time I read a DC comic!" ... and he went on, at length, about demographics and so on. He felt like "DC was shoving it in his face" and "Who the hell do they think is reading these comics, anyway?" So, it's not just a matter of being fair and equitable, marketing doesn't work like U.S. laws which protect equal rights, etc.

    My advice to you: Just watch the TV series SPARTACUS and be happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pulphero View Post
    The majority of comics readers (at least, fantasy-adventure type comics) have always been heterosexual males (and perhaps just as importantly, so have the publishers and artists).
    But happily, things are finally changing for the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulphero View Post
    The majority of comics readers (at least, fantasy-adventure type comics) have always been heterosexual males (and perhaps just as importantly, so have the publishers and artists).
    unless you are called Terry Moore and Jim Balent. Go figure
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