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  • Does Dynamite still have the rights to Buck Rogers?

    Buck Rogers is one of my favorites. And Dynamite is doing a GREAT job with Flash Gordon right now, but we've had nothing even MENTIONED about Buck in almost 2 years now. Does DE still hold the rights to this property? I have to say, I don't think that the previous series was really what comic fans wanted, but I think if they got the right creative team and new ideas, it would be a pretty big hit for them. Does anyone know?

  • #2
    Originally posted by JimmyPSHayes View Post
    Buck Rogers is one of my favorites. And Dynamite is doing a GREAT job with Flash Gordon right now, but we've had nothing even MENTIONED about Buck in almost 2 years now. Does DE still hold the rights to this property? I have to say, I don't think that the previous series was really what comic fans wanted, but I think if they got the right creative team and new ideas, it would be a pretty big hit for them. Does anyone know?
    Hermes Press (that publishes the classic Buck Rogers strip reprint collections) is preparing a new version - by Howard Chaykin, of all people. It does seem like an odd pairing of character with creator to me, but I'll reserve judgment until I see it. I never saw Chaykin as the type of guy who was nostalgic for anything from his childhood, but I could be wrong. Or maybe he's just getting sentimental in his old age. It happened to me. But then, I didn't have to get old to be nostalgic for Buck Rogers. I've owned that classic oversized hardcover collection The Collected Works of Buck Rogers in the 25th Century since it was first published (1969).

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    • #3
      Originally posted by positronic View Post
      Hermes Press (that publishes the classic Buck Rogers strip reprint collections) is preparing a new version - by Howard Chaykin, of all people. It does seem like an odd pairing of character with creator to me, but I'll reserve judgment until I see it. I never saw Chaykin as the type of guy who was nostalgic for anything from his childhood, but I could be wrong. Or maybe he's just getting sentimental in his old age. It happened to me. But then, I didn't have to get old to be nostalgic for Buck Rogers. I've owned that classic oversized hardcover collection The Collected Works of Buck Rogers in the 25th Century since it was first published (1969).

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      Well, I am damn ashamed by your post, Pos. I am a HUGE Buck Rogers fan(seriously, ask anyone at Dynamite)and I have NO CLUE how this slipped by me for ALMOST HALF A YEAR!!!! Thanks for the news, and I did a bunch of digging last night and found a lot of stuff out. As for Chaykin, I've been reading comics since the early 80's when I was a kid. If there's one thing I've found out is that when it comes to him, NEVER underestimate him as a creator. There's been some things he's done that I'm not a fan of(like Black Kiss)but, I tend to enjoy his work more often than not. At least, if nothing else, it's going to be an interesting read. Thanks again, for letting me know about this. I probably would've not seen in it Previews either and missed the whole damn thing! LOL!!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by JimmyPSHayes View Post
        If there's one thing I've found out is that when it comes to him, NEVER underestimate him as a creator. There's been some things he's done that I'm not a fan of(like Black Kiss)but, I tend to enjoy his work more often than not.
        I agree. But it's also possible for one man to enjoy a choice steak and a fine wine, and also Bazooka bubblegum and Lucky Charms. Chaykin usually isn't the first guy who leaps to my mind when I'm thinking about the warm-fuzzy/nostalgic/optimistic retro-future. Sure he's done some sci-fi and/or space opera but very little of it seems to fall into the category that I put Buck Rogers in. Some might say Cody Starbuck and Ironwolf, but I don't know. He did do the original Star Wars comics for Marvel, but then he's always had a "purely commercial" revenue stream to supplement his more personal projects. (The question would be: which one is this?) I'm dying for Chaykin to show me his sappy sentimentalist big-'ol-teddy-bear side though. That's one angle I don't really remember him pulling out of his bag of tricks.
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        • #5
          Oh yeah, I also own DE's The Art of Howard Chaykin hardcover.

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          • #6
            I'm guessing this is going to be REALLY action heavy, and I'm fine with that. But, yeah, I agree with you on your point. I'm looking forward to it very much. Even though I have something in my mind, I know it's going to be WAY different than what I'm picturing. LOL!!! Needless to say, it'll be nice to have Buck back in some capacity. The only thing that bothers me is that Hermes website is REALLY out of date. I read somewhere that they were planning around May of this year, so hopefully they can get things going. To my knowledge this is their first original series that they're putting out, so I hope they have some decent plans for it.

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            • #7
              I guess what I'm trying to articulate in a roundabout way is that sometimes when you're a longtime/bigtime FAN of something, you can sense when a creator is sympatico to that pure fanboy buzz of working on a particular character, when it's a personal joy for them to get to play with something they loved growing up. You know, like something inspired these people to get into the biz, and when you're on the same wavelength as the creator is regarding the character, something magical happens for the reader. There's a joy that's infectious.

              But I always got the sense that Chaykin was more "adult", no-nonsense, less sentimental, not all gushy when it came to comics that came before. I mean, I'm sure he's a multifaceted guy, I just never sensed that "fanboy" (of anything) lurking beneath the skin.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by positronic View Post
                I guess what I'm trying to articulate in a roundabout way is that sometimes when you're a longtime/bigtime FAN of something, you can sense when a creator is sympatico to that pure fanboy buzz of working on a particular character, when it's a personal joy for them to get to play with something they loved growing up. You know, like something inspired these people to get into the biz, and when you're on the same wavelength as the creator is regarding the character, something magical happens for the reader. There's a joy that's infectious.

                But I always got the sense that Chaykin was more "adult", no-nonsense, less sentimental, not all gushy when it came to comics that came before. I mean, I'm sure he's a multifaceted guy, I just never sensed that "fanboy" (of anything) lurking beneath the skin.
                I would totally agree on that point. Sometimes I get the vibe that he might just be a "paycheck" guy for some of the projects that he's taken. The only time I got the fanboy vibe from him was when he did the Shadow years ago. To me, that was a love letter from him to The Shadow.
                -But, sometimes, that love can REALLY hinder a creators ability. There's some books (like Image's Masters of the Universe), where the writer was SUCH a huge fan of that property, that it eventually hurt the book because he couldn't tell the stories that HE wanted to tell. Granted, that's a licensed property, but he eventually turned out a sub par book because he had all these franchise-changing stories that he wanted to tell, and the license holder wouldn't let him. Then, he basically turned the book over to a fan fic writer, and that was pretty much the end of that. It's a fine line between taking on something because you love it, and taking on a book that you think you can tell some good stories with. I hope, with Chaykin, it's the later.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JimmyPSHayes View Post
                  I would totally agree on that point. Sometimes I get the vibe that he might just be a "paycheck" guy for some of the projects that he's taken. The only time I got the fanboy vibe from him was when he did the Shadow years ago. To me, that was a love letter from him to The Shadow.
                  That's funny, because I've read interviews where Chaykin talked about his work on the Shadow, and he admits to no big love of the character. He remembered the radio show, but claimed never to have read any of the novels. Some of his comments were even dissing, in no uncertain terms, any Shadow fans who had anything critical to say about it. I'm sure he did his prep work, but he pretty much states outright that it was a paycheck job. And in a sense, when you think about it, Chaykin was being challenged by DC to deliver a sort of "Dark Knight Returns" for the Shadow, which he did.

                  But you're absolutely right about the 'paycheck' jobs. He totally admits to that, and I certainly can't blame anyone in the industry who does it. It's a little sad sometimes, when I think about the incredibly talented people who never make the "big time" in comics, because of their sensitivities and devotion to art or philosophy. On the one hand, you admire someone who won't sell out, who sticks to their guns, even when you can't totally understand their point of view. We put them in the category of 'the eccentrics'. Famous members: Alan Moore, Steve Ditko. On the other hand, how do you balance the "art" with the craftmanship and commerce, and the need to pay the bills? There are obviously works that Chaykin does that are less commercial and more driven by personal vision. Sometimes those are the works that I like best, but sometimes not. I can't always share his headspace. Black Kiss? No thank you.
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                  • #10
                    About those "paycheck" jobs...

                    I grew up absolutely loving the work of "Big John" Buscema, on titles like Silver Surfer, Sub-Mariner, and most especially, The Avengers. I mean, sure, he did plenty of other superhero titles as well, most notably runs on Fantastic Four and Thor (but there he had to follow Jack Kirby -- and it's a tough thing to be "the replacement guy" for Jack Kirby).

                    His later work from the 1970s and 1980s on titles like Tarzan, and (his personal favorite work) Conan... eh, I'm not so big a fan. And obviously there are going to be people who completely disagree with me on this. But it turns out, this it the type of work he loved. The most well-kept secret in the Marvel Bullpen (somehow they neglected to mention it on the Bullpen Bulletins page) was that John Buscema HATED working on superheroes. You could have knocked me over with a feather when I found out. I absolutely LOVED that work, thought it was brilliant. Conan was more of an acquired taste for me. They sucked me in with a Kirbyesque Barry Smith - who quickly blossomed into his own unique style. Here again, Buscema had to follow a guy who had indelibly put his stamp on the character, so... "replacement guy". Ditto for Buscema's Tarzan (following Kubert's at DC). But Buscema considered this his "element" and would have happily drawn it forever (I sense a guy who grew up loving Hal Foster's Prince Valiant...) But for me, it was Silver Surfer, Sub-Mariner, and The Avengers that really sang to me.
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                    • #11
                      Wow! Those are some interesting things that I hadn't heard before. Especially about Big John. I always loved his work on Conan, being a sword and sorcery fan myself. In a dream world, every artist/writer would work on their dream project. Unfortunately, a lot of them seem to be doing creator owned projects and they're not selling as well because they're SO MANY. Yes, I wish they could all succeed, but I think sometimes it's taking talent off bigger paying assignments. They could work on the creator owned stuff in their spare time and put them out as trades, I think they would come out even more successful then putting out monthly books that don't sell as well. But, that's just my opinion.

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                      • #12
                        Interesting in theory, about the creator-owned trades vs. floppies. Trying to think of something, anything, that went the route of original graphic novel first, rather than in serialized form, and was a big success - but not coming up with anything. Seems like everything that hit big is available in the cheaper format first. THEN if popular, the sales of the trade paperback collections follow suit. There are some things (Walking Dead and Vertigo titles jump to mind) where the TPs do as well (sometimes better, eventually) than the floppies, but it's always after they've built a following in chapter form, and the trade-waiters pick up the books based on word of mouth buzz, or convert from floppy to TP consumers.
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                        • #13
                          Speaking of The Walking Dead, I laugh now to think that it's the biggest-paying assignment that Robert Kirkman ever had. I bet there are people working on Spider-Man and Batman that wouldn't mind trading positions with him.

                          And apparently, Ed Brubaker is doing well enough on his creator owned properties like Fatale that he can afford to drop work on bread-and-butter titles like Captain America and Winter Soldier. Admittedly, these guys are by far the exception, not the rule, but good for them.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by positronic View Post
                            Speaking of The Walking Dead, I laugh now to think that it's the biggest-paying assignment that Robert Kirkman ever had. I bet there are people working on Spider-Man and Batman that wouldn't mind trading positions with him.

                            And apparently, Ed Brubaker is doing well enough on his creator owned properties like Fatale that he can afford to drop work on bread-and-butter titles like Captain America and Winter Soldier. Admittedly, these guys are by far the exception, not the rule, but good for them.
                            I've know Kirkman for many years. I first met him back in 2003, I think. I had him at my store, as well as the other people from MV Creations(they were doing Masters of the Universe at the time), and he was writing the Icons of Evil He-Man one-shots. At dinner that night he told me he was working on a zombie book. I told him "that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard! Who's gonna care about zombies after like the 6th issue?" You can see how wrong I was. LOL!!! To this day I tease him about finishing Space Ace, and dumping The Walking Dead. LOL!!! Right now, were I work, things like Ax Cop, Saga, and Walking Dead TPB sales FAR outweigh the monthly sales on those titles. Saga is out highest selling book, but it was HANDS DOWN our best selling trade paperback of the year. Buy a pretty HUGE margin. The same for Ax Cop. We sell maybe 3 or 4 copies off the rack, but the trades, we can't keep in stock! And The Walking Dead sells a good number of monthlies, but whenever a new trade comes out, even though we order HUGE amounts, we always sell out by the end of the first day and have to have more direct shipped to the store. Customers are funny with what they want and in what format they want it. I can't think of anything that I wait for the trade on. Of course, if I didn't work in a store, my buying habits might be a bit different.

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                            • #15
                              Image in particular has a number of titles that do especially well in trade paperback. But I still wonder if you can just skip the floppy format altogether. Maybe someday, with digital. But right now, I think trade sales are dependent on those bleeding-edge early adopters of the serialized format to generate buzz for a nascent title.
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