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  • #16
    I went back and started re-reading this book starting with #5. It's actually pretty good. The story in the first four issues was fairly simple, but it's grown into a big story with lots of different aspects to it. The artwork is improving, too.

    If you want to start reading this book but don't want to go all the way back to issue #5 (or 1), try starting with issue #15. It summarizes what's been going on, so it would be a good jumping in place.

    I'm enjoying reading this book. I hope they keep publishing it - I'll keep buying it!

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    • #17
      You know something? Dark Shadows and Dark Shadows: Year One are the only DE titles I buy that I've allowed myself to get about 5 issues behind on. At some point soon, I'm either going to have to catch up, or just stop buying them.

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      • #18
        the current storyline is interesting but i do wish it would end. feels as though its been going on for ages now.

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        • #19
          My distribution problems have kicked in again, so I have not yet seen #19. My LCS claims that they are trying to get it for me, but it has been over a week and still nothing.

          However, to get into the conversation, I did manage to get hold of the TPB of the first four issues. (I had read the individual issues when they first came out, but then I gave them to a friend so I no longer had them). And, Roger, you are soooooo right. Those issues told a very basic story with almost no depth to it. Standard good guys fight bad gal story. It is almost shocking to compare those issues with what has been going on ever since. You are also correct that #15 is a good jumping on point if you don't want to get all the back stories.

          Son of Tarzan, the story has been going on a long time...over a year now. But, as I mentioned earlier, the story has many layers so some parts of it have been wrapped up while others have started (such as the inclusion of Blair). I find it easier to think of it not as a comic book story but as a soap opera (which the original show was). In other words, characters actually develop and change. Actions have permanent consequences. Unlike a lot of superhero books, in this book there is no simple re-set button to put everybody back exactly the way they were before the storyline started. If Barbara Gordon was in this book, she would still be in that wheelchair. Don't get me wrong: I am sure that Barnabas will eventually get his body back, but that doesn't mean he will do it unscathed. There will be permanent consequences that he will have to deal with. I rather like that--it is what keeps me intrigued with where the story is going. But the "downside" is that, in a sense, the "current storyline" will never be wrapped up. It will never completely end. It will become part of the new reality that the Collins clan will have to deal with. But isn't that kind of cool?

          pulphero: I kind of envy that you will be able to read them in a chunk. Particularly since I (apparently) have to fight to get my issues!

          By the way, I am not as fond of Year One. Ironically, considering the complaint that the regular series is moving too slow, Year One is going waaaaaaaay too fast, breezing by a lot of plot points with the result that the plot makes little sense unless you already know it from the TV series.

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          • #20
            i've watched the original series so i'm familiar with that type of storytelling. the one consequence i hope they deal with is Elizabeth. after everything that happened in the series, and now in this comic, i hope she takes a more active role in things and begins to deal with the supernatural events that tend to plague the Collins family.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Son of Tarzan View Post
              i've watched the original series so i'm familiar with that type of storytelling. the one consequence i hope they deal with is Elizabeth. after everything that happened in the series, and now in this comic, i hope she takes a more active role in things and begins to deal with the supernatural events that tend to plague the Collins family.
              Agree 100%. After everything that has happened since Cousin Barnabas appeared, Elizabeth's constant state of denial is difficult to accept.

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              • #22
                So it looks like this series will end with #23. Pity, but I can't pretend to be surprised. I know sales were poor (my LCS frankly admitted that I am the sole customer for the book at their shop). It looks like the Evil Barnabas storyline wraps with #22 and then #23 is the sole "aftermath" issue.

                So, if a book is canceled for poor sales, does that mean that there is no chance of trade paperbacks? I was really hoping the storyline would be collected.

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                • #23
                  I guess I have a partial answer. A search of Amazon.com reflects that a TPB Vol. 2 of Dark Shadows is scheduled for release in December.

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                  • #24
                    aw man, this stinks. though honestly, i'm surprised the title has lasted this long. i may not have enjoyed the current storyline so much, but i do love DS and have supported this comic. maybe we can get a mini-series of some sort in the future?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Son of Tarzan View Post
                      aw man, this stinks. though honestly, i'm surprised the title has lasted this long. i may not have enjoyed the current storyline so much, but i do love DS and have supported this comic. maybe we can get a mini-series of some sort in the future?
                      Maybe, at least they can keep doing a continuation of the Year One series by retelling some of the major storylines of Dark Shadows...1897 and 1840 and the others?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Tulku View Post
                        So, if a book is canceled for poor sales, does that mean that there is no chance of trade paperbacks? I was really hoping the storyline would be collected.
                        Even Green Hornet Strikes! is getting a trade collection (and frankly, after that long-delayed, and underwhelming, perfunctory final issue #10, I'm not sure it deserves one).

                        I honestly don't think there are very many DE titles that don't go to trade. Trade sales are an important revenue stream for DE, especially for media tie-in properties, because many fans of these things will never see them in a comic shop. On the other hand, it isn't such a big percentage for them that they can make up the money from a poorly-selling monthly, so single issue sales are still crucial. I assume DS Year One is ending, also.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by pulphero View Post
                          I assume DS Year One is ending, also.
                          Well, yes. But to be fair, DS Year One was always intended to be a limited series. The next issue is the last.

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                          • #28
                            Here's what Shadowgrams had to report on the DS comics: “In November, Dynamite Comics will conclude publication of its DARK SHADOWS comic book series, with issue #23.

                            Please Note:

                            “The current market climate for comic books outside of the traditional superhero category is difficult. Consumers continue a shift to digital platforms, and traditional outlets for comics decrease.

                            “Dynamite hopes to pursue new options to re-launch DARK SHADOWS comics in the near future.” SG will report confirmed comic book news."

                            So there's hope that at some point the series, or at least some special issues, might continue.

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                            • #29
                              i'm sure its hard to maintain interest in some of the properties Dynamite has. Green Hornet got a big push from the live action film and has managed to stick around. but Dark Shadows has nothing, now that the live action movie is a year old and didn't do so well at the box office. like i said before, i'm surprised it managed to last this long. it was a good ride though. never thought i'd reading something like Dark Shadows/Vampirella.

                              they say they would like to relaunch in the future...but they said the same thing when The Last Phantom ended.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Son of Tarzan View Post
                                i'm sure its hard to maintain interest in some of the properties Dynamite has. Green Hornet got a big push from the live action film and has managed to stick around. but Dark Shadows has nothing, now that the live action movie is a year old and didn't do so well at the box office. like i said before, i'm surprised it managed to last this long.
                                The very existence of the movies certainly creates an awareness in people that they wouldn't otherwise have of the property. Kevin Smith's Green Hornet and Green Hornet Year One came out more than a year in advance of the movie (which also didn't do very well at the box office, but was lower budgeted than Dark Shadows). Neither of the GH titles had anything to do with the movie OR the old TV series (and when DE did finally publish a tie-in miniseries, it didn't sell so well), unlike DS which is at least faithful to the original, and the GH books arguably sold much better in their first year than after the movie came out. Although Year One ended after 12 issues, Mark Waid's Green Hornet can be fairly considered as a sequel/continuation to that title. What's REALLY surprising is that the main GH title managed to last 41 issues. Surprising because GH seems to have succeeded for a while based purely on its own merit. If anything, the anticipation of the movie helped, but the movie itself, seemingly not at all.

                                And so far, a poorly-received Lone Ranger movie hasn't killed that title off yet either. Ditto for Disney's John Carter (a major flop) and DE's Warlord of Mars titles, while Marvel's tie-ins came and went nearly unnoticed. Meanwhile, DE's Bionic Man has enjoyed a good run of 24 issues with no new movie project on the horizon. Bionic Woman was cancelled after only 10 issues, despite having a TV series revival (which also flopped after a mere 8 episodes) only a few years back. It's hard to draw any hard and fast conclusions on DE's comics' relationship to the various movie properties.
                                Last edited by pulphero; 09-25-2013, 11:13 AM.

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