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    Guest started a topic GAIL SIMONE ON RED SONJA STARTING IN JULY!!

    GAIL SIMONE ON RED SONJA STARTING IN JULY!!

    I am SO JAZZED ABOUT THIS!!!

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    No agenda please

    I came back to comics too late to get into the Red Sonja run, Too much had passed, I've heard so many people say good thing sabout Eric Trautman's run though.

    I'm looking forward to reading Gail Simones, I love the way she writes batgirl, but did you know that until this red sonja was announced and I did some research on her I didn't know she was a feminist?

    I'm fine with that, but the internet is a stupid place, everyone is pushing some agenda, personally I think its cool for Sonja to have a female writer, a writer who for me made Batgirl a real person that I cared about, She can do awesome things with Sonja, But I think it should be clear that she still has to write a good story. Politically correct hipness and agendas will create a nice buzz and sell a first issue, but it won't carry a title.

    I bring this up because its a big thing these days, Case in point, the recent issue of X-men #1, All female team, all the reviews gave it 5/5 or 10/10 or such, and it cleary did not deserve it. So much was made of the fact it was all female, as if that in itself made it a great comic and story, its horseshit plain and simple. It was a good comic, I'd give it 3-3.5/5 but just because it was supposed to be some political statement its like it go 1-1.5 stars because so many people are pushing it as an agenda and not as a comic.

    Many male writers have been completely fair to female characters, Eric Trautman and Brandon Jerwa have made a tough as nails yet still feminine Vampirella, the X-men characters Storm, Rogue, Jean Grey, have been strong intelligent and realistic character for decades under male writers. I read blogs online where women are saying to buy this, even though they admit to not having ever read comics before, simply because Gail Simone is a feminist.

    This upsets me. I'm all for drawing more women into comics, At my local store there are many women comic readers from the local college, Its a nice to have that dynamic when talking comics, but Sonja being a female character and Gail Simone being a feminist should not be the reason to buy the title. I hope she and her devoted following realize that. Comic fans vote with their money and it takes more then a slick agenda to pull in the sales every month.

    That being said, Simone is a great writer, like I said, I love her Batgirl, I believe her when she says she is excited about this take on Sonja, I'm excited to get into the character finally. I just hope that the interwebs don't think that just because of the character and Simones idealogies that this title deserves to be a great. The fans will decide that, and it will come down to the story she crafts.

    Edit: I'm not even sure why the interwebs are making this deal out of it. Female characters have been in comics for a long time, and most have not been bimbo morons, Many of my favorite characters have been female, and I feel safe speaking for other guys when I say I would not have liked them if they were not full, real characters, and it has nothing to do with their cup size.
    Last edited by James; 05-31-2013, 08:41 PM.

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    Originally posted by brickbutler View Post

    Walter Geovani is a great artist, admittedly I only really came to know his work in the Prophecy cross-over event, Which I thought he did an incredible job at.

    Bleeding cool has even more panels of his work for issue #1 now, and it is really great stuff, you couldn't ask for better interior art.

    Simone/Geovani is a team that is absolutely going to rock.

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    looking forward to it

    I've never read a Red Sonja series, just the cross over in Prophecy, I've always wanted to but I just felt like I would be clueless comming into long running series.

    I'm really excited about this News with Gail Simone and a reboot. I read the interview with her, She genuinely seems excited and inspired about it herself.

    I'll finally have a chance to read a character I've always wanted to read but was afraid to.

    Also, Gail Simone is awesome.
    I mean I really like DC's Batgirl series though, so i'm biased but whatever. She writes the hell out of that series, to me, Batgirl is the best of the bats.

    So. Writer I really like, Character i've always wanted to get more into, Reboot that allows me to do so. Will definately be picking it up.

    P.S to Gail Simone issues 19 and 20 of Batgirl have been stellar
    Last edited by James; 05-25-2013, 09:56 AM.

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    The best idea I have heard re DH Conan/Sonja says that Conan was out around the Vilayet when he met Sonja, but before "Queen of the Black Coast," so that would put it maybe right around the end of Conan the Cimmerian and before the current run.

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    Not right at this moment... kind of dealing with a bit of a crisis right now (partner in hospital).

    I have a continuity essay or three you might like though...

    http://chastmastr.tumblr.com/tagged/continuity

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    Originally posted by ChastMastr View Post
    Hooray! Thank you!

    And now another question for you or anyone who might know...

    With the full knowledge that the Dark Horse Conan is not at all the same approach as Marvel's... assuming that one were to imagine that "Song of Red Sonja" was taking place in the Dark Horse Conan series, or in the timeline of the original Conan stories they are trying very hard to follow... where might that wind up going?

    (Yes, yes, yes, I know, I put my Dynamite Red Sonja and my Dark Horse Conan/Kull/etc. all together, please don't judge me...)
    would you be interested in starting a new thread and cobbling together a marvel/dark horse/ dynamite entertainment timeline just for fun, were we on this forum decide what stories to include and what order to put them in? Because I WOULD like to do that, just for fun!

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    the marvel Song of Red Sonja storyline took place when Conan was very young. He was maybe...18 at the youngest......and.....21 years old at most? Conan had just started traveling, was seeing what all Hyboria had to offer, and was doing mercenary work at the time. Sonja herself was also very young......probably 18. In the original story, Conan was very green and impulsive. This would be the "comic conan/kull/red sonja timeline"

    AS A SIDE NOTE:
    Just always keep in the back of your mind that the official Conan the Barbarian timeline is based off of the original Howard stories from the 1930's. And always will be. If you wish to ignore the original CONAN CANON, and create one you are more happy with, by all means do so. You certainly wouldnt be the first! Just be aware that the original stories didn't include Red Sonja, and they are the official Conan timeline. (Howard himself did not create a timeline for the fans, nor did he write the original stories in chronological order)

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    Originally posted by eric_trautmann View Post
    I guess, technically after 75, you've got her Marvel Conan and solo books, THEN #0, but essentially, yes.

    -E
    Hooray! Thank you!

    And now another question for you or anyone who might know...

    With the full knowledge that the Dark Horse Conan is not at all the same approach as Marvel's... assuming that one were to imagine that "Song of Red Sonja" was taking place in the Dark Horse Conan series, or in the timeline of the original Conan stories they are trying very hard to follow... where might that wind up going?

    (Yes, yes, yes, I know, I put my Dynamite Red Sonja and my Dark Horse Conan/Kull/etc. all together, please don't judge me...)

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    #80 will be the final issue.

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    Originally posted by Kloot View Post
    What number does the current series end with?
    I presume #81 will be the last since issue #80 is titled 'The Crimson Well' part 5 (of 6). (source here [midtowncomics.com])

    BTW, four sample interior pics from the new #1 have been posted here [dynamite.net].

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    This new series, I assume is replacing the current one. What number does the current series end with?

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    Originally posted by ChastMastr View Post
    Aha! So then the proper order of the Dynamite series would be 51-75, 0, 1-50? (or 51-75, 0, 1-7, and 50 if one, like me, wants to avoid all the Queen Sonja-related stuff)
    I guess, technically after 75, you've got her Marvel Conan and solo books, THEN #0, but essentially, yes.

    -E

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    Aha! So then the proper order of the Dynamite series would be 51-75, 0, 1-50? (or 51-75, 0, 1-7, and 50 if one, like me, wants to avoid all the Queen Sonja-related stuff)
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    Originally posted by ChastMastr View Post
    Ah, I see! Dumb question--where in Dynamite's Red Sonja continuity does your run take place? Is it before issue #1 of the 75-issue series? I read something that suggested it was in her pre-meeting-Conan days, and I've assumed all of the other stories are set after she met Conan.
    I've certainly not been cagey about that. As far as I'M concerned, issues #51-#75 all take place prior to Sonja's first meeting with Conan.

    You may note I used a device, referencing as "lost" Nemedian Chronicle; I did that deliberately. My run is a sort of cul de sac that concludes with a definite reference to "The Song of Red Sonja" issue; so, my stuff is "prequel," which feeds directly into the Marvel stuff, which then feeds into Dynamite's take on the character starting with issue #0.

    It's all a big circle.

    -E

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