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  • Any Plans for a 'Happy 40th, Red Sonja'?

    I noticed the other day while re-reading my Conan 23 - again, in which Red appears for the first time, that it was dated February 1973. That makes this year the 40th anniversary of Red Sonja! I have yet to hear of anything to celebrate this major milestone, and was wondering whether anyone else has. This would be a grand opportunity for various special events/magazine issues/reprints to give the Sonja faithful something to cheer about and remember her by.

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    I would love to celebrate Red Sonja's 40th birthday by simply being able to purchase some quality and monthly Sonja Stories. No vampire foolishness, no more reincarnation business, just great stories that do not necessarily have to be 5-6 issues long in order to "fit into a tpb" like everyone likes to do now-a-days. Honestly, that would be so awesome.

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    • #3
      I hear you! Perhaps the new girl coming on will do that sort of thing. Or maybe DE will put out some one-shots. Those seem to be more true to Red as she should be, and tend to be better than the series titles.

      I did some snooping in the 'issues' section and found that Eric's run goes to number 75, which promises a choice of 3 'anniversary covers'. Someone waking up perhaps?

      The post-Prophecy issues - 76-80 so far - may not be in the cards (I hope). 76 has a claimed availability date of January, and we are already in April, which is about where issue 78 is supposed to be. With the new series supposedly starting in July, the 'issues of abomination' may not make the cut. Without more slippage, 74 (supposedly out in November 2012) won't likely hit until later this month, and 75 in May. That gives them 1 month to get out the 6 'Crimson Well' issues before the new series. That's not happening, so unless something sneaky is in the works we may be spared.

      Maybe our best celebration bet is to write our own stories. I have one in progress, taking place after "The Call of the Wild", Red's last appearance in terms of chronology at age 60 something.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by brickbutler View Post
        I would love to celebrate Red Sonja's 40th birthday by simply being able to purchase some quality and monthly Sonja Stories. No vampire foolishness, no more reincarnation business, just great stories that do not necessarily have to be 5-6 issues long in order to "fit into a tpb" like everyone likes to do now-a-days. Honestly, that would be so awesome.
        Well, they have to keep the business going, and trade paperbacks are an important part of keeping a title going from an economic standpoint, so I can't really blame them. They do have to 'fit', but not necessarily take up the entire book. Lone Ranger has been doing a few great single issue stories lately, but of course they are carefully placed between longer arcs so that they'll fit into a collected edition. I realize that some folks couldn't care less about the trade paperbacks, but then you've got to think about the fact that there are people who ONLY want the trade paperbacks, too.
        DE pull list: Will Eisner's The Spirit: The Corpse Makers, ERB's The Greatest Adventure, Green Hornet '66 Meets The Spirit, PSP: Herokillers, KISS/Vampirella, Mighty Mouse

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        • #5
          They could always do a nice bunch of done-in-one stories and then collect them in a TPB. Sandman did a good job of alternating between multi-part stories and one-shots.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ChastMastr View Post
            They could always do a nice bunch of done-in-one stories and then collect them in a TPB. Sandman did a good job of alternating between multi-part stories and one-shots.
            this is what I meant. Only a fool would get rid of TPB's altogether.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Olde Sonja Fan View Post
              I hear you! Perhaps the new girl coming on will do that sort of thing. Or maybe DE will put out some one-shots. Those seem to be more true to Red as she should be, and tend to be better than the series titles.

              I did some snooping in the 'issues' section and found that Eric's run goes to number 75, which promises a choice of 3 'anniversary covers'. Someone waking up perhaps?

              The post-Prophecy issues - 76-80 so far - may not be in the cards (I hope). 76 has a claimed availability date of January, and we are already in April, which is about where issue 78 is supposed to be. With the new series supposedly starting in July, the 'issues of abomination' may not make the cut. Without more slippage, 74 (supposedly out in November 2012) won't likely hit until later this month, and 75 in May. That gives them 1 month to get out the 6 'Crimson Well' issues before the new series. That's not happening, so unless something sneaky is in the works we may be spared.

              Maybe our best celebration bet is to write our own stories. I have one in progress, taking place after "The Call of the Wild", Red's last appearance in terms of chronology at age 60 something.

              I am very interested in your fan -fiction. copy and paste it to my message section?

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              • #8
                Issues 76-80 are definitely still being published, we're wrapping up 78 this week in fact.

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                • #9
                  Just thought I'd jump in here to point out that we've seen no official announcement of the cancellation of the current RS title. The Gail Simone title may well be in addition to, rather than a replacement for, the current RS title. The same confusion seemed to surround the launch of Mark Waid's Green Hornet -- when first announced, most people seemed to assume it was a replacement for the ongoing Green Hornet title (formerly known as Kevin Smith's Green Hornet), but this turned out not to be the case.
                  DE pull list: Will Eisner's The Spirit: The Corpse Makers, ERB's The Greatest Adventure, Green Hornet '66 Meets The Spirit, PSP: Herokillers, KISS/Vampirella, Mighty Mouse

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by brickbutler View Post
                    I would love to celebrate Red Sonja's 40th birthday by simply being able to purchase some quality and monthly Sonja Stories. No vampire foolishness, no more reincarnation business, just great stories that do not necessarily have to be 5-6 issues long in order to "fit into a tpb" like everyone likes to do now-a-days. Honestly, that would be so awesome.
                    Oh yeah.

                    Good stories. Good art. They way comics should be.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by positronic View Post
                      Just thought I'd jump in here to point out that we've seen no official announcement of the cancellation of the current RS title. The Gail Simone title may well be in addition to, rather than a replacement for, the current RS title. The same confusion seemed to surround the launch of Mark Waid's Green Hornet -- when first announced, most people seemed to assume it was a replacement for the ongoing Green Hornet title (formerly known as Kevin Smith's Green Hornet), but this turned out not to be the case.
                      This is true, but since the "Let's make Red Sonja a vampire" is one of the dumbest, laziest storylines I can think of, The majority of fans will probably gravitate to the Gail simone "Red Sonja" comic book. I know I will. This may very well lead to a cancellation of the current book. Personally, I think I would rather it just stop than become a mockery and a joke.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by brickbutler View Post
                        This is true, but since the "Let's make Red Sonja a vampire" is one of the dumbest, laziest storylines I can think of, The majority of fans will probably gravitate to the Gail simone "Red Sonja" comic book. I know I will. This may very well lead to a cancellation of the current book. Personally, I think I would rather it just stop than become a mockery and a joke.
                        You obviously aren't a fan of Green Hornet, since this seems new to you. And that's pretty much how things go, over in Hornetsville.
                        DE pull list: Will Eisner's The Spirit: The Corpse Makers, ERB's The Greatest Adventure, Green Hornet '66 Meets The Spirit, PSP: Herokillers, KISS/Vampirella, Mighty Mouse

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by brickbutler View Post
                          This is true, but since the "Let's make Red Sonja a vampire" is one of the dumbest, laziest storylines I can think of...
                          Have you actually read those issues yet?

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                          • #14
                            No I have not read the issues, because they are not out yet. But, I am sure that they will not have the "Red Sonja" vibe. Why am I sure? Because I read prophecy. It was a NON red sonja story that had Red Sonja in it. The Prophecy story was very superhero-ish: meaning that it had a superhero vibe with a sword-n-sorcery character involved. Hated it.
                            Then- I read the mediocre Witchblade/Sonja team-up. It stunk to high heaven. God- I remember all my homeboys at the local comic book store just ripping it to shreds because it was so bad. I......I couldn't even defend it, because I read it....and hung my head head in shame. And if there is ONE THING I do on a regular basis, is defend Red Sonja & Dynamite Entertainment down here in Georgia.

                            BUT! I would love for the issues to come out and be great. And the makers of the "Red Sonja vampire" storyline probably think it is great. But if I were a betting man, I would put all my money on that the vampire-sonja storyline will be eiter straight up bad, or mediocre at best.

                            Prove me wrong. Please, prove me wrong.

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                            • #15
                              I think the basic problem with the "Red Sonja as vampire" story is that it's in her own title. Wait, strike that--that could itself work as a temporary condition, perhaps, apart from anything else. I think the problem is that it's in her own title and connected to Vampirella, Dracula, etc. It takes utterly unrelated characters and makes them part of her own series in ways that I think are jarring for the genre.

                              It's kind of like Marvel Team-Up: Spider-Man met Kull and Red Sonja in there, as well as meeting Sonja in their own Dynamite miniseries. But he didn't show up in her own book, nor in Kull's. That would have been just... off. Again, it's like Jonah Hex--for his entire original series and for his recent pre-Flashpoint series, he may have occasionally encountered the supernatural, but he didn't team up with Batman or Green Lantern in his own book. He did guest-star in other super-hero time-travel stories, absolutely, but not in his own title, which was kept cleanly in the grim western context. Yes, he did have a series in which he traveled to a post-apocalyptic future, which was interesting, but you may note that it lasted a whopping year and a half and then poor Jonah was relegated to a couple of miniseries and time-travel cameo appearances until 2006. 1987-2006 is almost twenty years... But it went on very well for 70 issues until the DC reboot. And now, while I do like the work by the writers on the New 52 All-Star Western, I think it is marred a bit by the deeply unnecessary, but probably editorially mandated, heavy, visible connections to the current DCU--he's been in Gotham hanging out with Dr. Arkham, encountering ancestors of people like Batman and the Penguin, dealing with Eclipso's black diamond and so on and so on, and I find it jarring from a genre/story viewpoint. (It also doesn't help that's it's been dragged into service for things like the Court of Owls from Batman: since we know they will be around to plague Batman in the present day, there is no chance Jonah might take down the entire organization, and so on and so on, so it makes his book subordinate to the Bat-books.) Booster Gold will be showing up shortly, and Jonah will have a multi-issue jaunt to the present day as well--again, both of which might be great stories in themselves, but as part of Jonah's own title, weirdly awkward.

                              I feel that this is precisely the same problem with shoehorning Dracula, Vampirella, etc. into Sonja's own series. Having Sonja show up in a crossover team-up like Prophecy, well and good, but it should end with, I don't know, her memories of it fading like a dream, perhaps, after she saves the world, never to be referred to in her own title.

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