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  • Originally posted by Ralok View Post
    Chapter 2 - Animals
    Codex accused of giving Insufficient Attention to Calots and Banths!

    A side note to Soraks, and nothing else?

    Banths deserve a bit more attention, if only because of Thuvia. And Calots are too important to gloss over like that. Woola was among my favorite characters in the whole series!! And that's not sarcasm! He certainly was the best part of the Disney film.

    I truly believe Woola could carry his own mini series as a main character.

    ...

    Hey! That's a pretty cool idea for Dynamite to consider

    Waddayasay Big D?

    It's be kind to Calots week, so the timing is perfect.

    When can we expect Woola #1?
    Last edited by Cynicalman; 08-07-2013, 01:20 PM. Reason: bad grammar correction

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    • Originally posted by Cynicalman View Post
      Codex accused of giving Insufficient Attention to Calots and Banths!

      A side note to Soraks, and nothing else?

      Banths deserve a bit more attention, if only because of Thuvia. And Calots are too important to gloss over like that. Woola was among my favorite characters in the whole series!! And that's not sarcasm! He certainly was the best part of the Disney film.

      I truly believe Woola could carry his own mini series as a main character.

      ...

      Hey! That's a pretty cool idea for Dynamite to consider

      Waddayasay Big D?

      It's be kind to Calots week, so the timing is perfect.

      When can we expect Woola #1?
      yes, I am aware the animals section is incomplete, dont worry I got more coming dude!

      I have suggested multiple times that if they ever do another annual that it be based on Woola... but a whole series... it should definitly start with a mini-series I think... and if its successful... who knows! I think woola could carry his own series.

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      • Originally posted by Ralok View Post
        yes, I am aware the animals section is incomplete, dont worry I got more coming dude!

        I have suggested multiple times that if they ever do another annual that it be based on Woola... but a whole series... it should definitly start with a mini-series I think... and if its successful... who knows! I think woola could carry his own series.
        No worries on the animals, just being sarcastic.

        Or is that Cynical?

        I hope they listen to us about Woola though!

        Marvel did a "series of mini-series" about "Lockjaw and The Pet Avengers" which turned out to be the title which got me reading comics again after a 20 year break

        So a title about such critters is possible, and has already been done successfully.

        And if Marvel can do it, Dynamite can do it better, right?

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        • Originally posted by Cynicalman View Post
          No worries on the animals, just being sarcastic.

          Or is that Cynical?

          I hope they listen to us about Woola though!

          Marvel did a "series of mini-series" about "Lockjaw and The Pet Avengers" which turned out to be the title which got me reading comics again after a 20 year break

          So a title about such critters is possible, and has already been done successfully.

          And if Marvel can do it, Dynamite can do it better, right?
          I loved pet avengers waaaaaaaaaaay too much D: there was also some kinda subtle stuff that was really neat!

          Well if we want a team of critters then we are going to have to wait until Komal is introduced.... and I will say this now... Dynamite, it was one of Edgar Rice Burroughs greatest mistakes to kill Komal, do not kill him let Thuvia and Carthoris keep him as their completely awesome pet XD

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          • I don't think a team is needed, Woola could carry a story alone. I've seen many different type stories told over the years without any dialogue, and I think that approach would work for this story if they opt for this idea

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            • Lords of Mars #1

              so what did everything think of the first issue?

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              • Felt more like a prologue, with two separate stories. Probably should have been issue #0. Or even better, they could have split the story into two parts and included them each as a bonus 'teaser' in the regular Lord of the Jungle and Warlord of Mars comic books. I'm sure it'll get better when the two actually meet, but isn't this only a 4-issue series? It wasn't bad, per se, but somehow I thought the plot threads between the two characters would be more intertwined.

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                • Its slower paced then what I would have expected, but then I had to remind myself that this was a 6 issue mini rather than the 4 issues that dynamite has conditioned me for XD overall it seems like a good premise thus far, and I felt they captured both Tarzan and Janes characters without being insulting to them, as well they were not insulting to John Carter...

                  Insulting one or the other has been a huge issue with John Carter and Tarzan crossovers in the past, so it seems much better in that regard.

                  I love the art style, and the direction of the story with the use of Therns as the villains. They work really well as they are known to use deception, subterfuge, and cunning as their weapons, not to mention their mythological connection with the white apes provides a distinct story advantage. Also it helps resolve the barsoomian language border issue with Tarzan.

                  The Therns have demonstrated the ability to ... communicate with the white apes to a degree, being able to summon them and such... likely a skill they learned because they believe they could communicate with their ancestors in the bodies of the apes. And considering Burroughs style evolution it is likely the apes speak the tongue of the Mangani...

                  So Tarzan will likely be able to communicate at least partially with the Therns when he arrives. Most likely what will happen is that they will take him in, explain their views on the after life... and form bonds of friendship with tarzan... Then when John Carter arrives to negotiate with the Hekkador they will get John Carter all riled up and swear to fight the white apes until the last one falls.

                  Which... will no doubt piss of Tarzan, and cause the ape-man to go to war with John Carter... as they demonstrated in the first issue old white skin has a bit more of a temper than John carter...

                  I felt like the story ion the first issue laid perfect groundwork for a great story!

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                  • Originally posted by Cynicalman View Post
                    I don't think a team is needed, Woola could carry a story alone. I've seen many different type stories told over the years without any dialogue, and I think that approach would work for this story if they opt for this idea
                    yeah but the level of adorableness of seeing Woola headbutt a banth at 200 miles per-hour would be be amazing XD

                    but yeah i pretty much finished tthe animals section on this thread, I hope I made all teh beasties sound good.

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                    • being a big Burroughs fan i've certainly enjoyed the majority of Tarzan and John Carter related comics. hope we get 100 more!

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                      • Dejah and Green #5

                        didnt get to read the whole thing yet, but from a glance I can tell its much improved over previous issues in the series. I didnt like this series when it began, but I am glad it is getting more issues to make up for some of the problems it had.

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                        • I enjoyed the graphic nature of #'s 1 to 4. I can't say the toned down nature of issue 5 was an improvement, or that it was missed.

                          Just that I enjoyed it and do not feel it presented any conflicts with the Barsoomian Genre. The Tharks were always supposed to be vicious and barbaric, so it was perfectly understandable and not at all out of place to depict them that way

                          I'd enjoy more stories like those first four issues.

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                          • Originally posted by Cynicalman View Post
                            I enjoyed the graphic nature of #'s 1 to 4. I can't say the toned down nature of issue 5 was an improvement, or that it was missed.

                            Just that I enjoyed it and do not feel it presented any conflicts with the Barsoomian Genre. The Tharks were always supposed to be vicious and barbaric, so it was perfectly understandable and not at all out of place to depict them that way

                            I'd enjoy more stories like those first four issues.
                            The first four issues were childish exploitation, they really didnt fit the Dejah Thoris character. The story would have worked much better with Tara whose character history is soaked with appropriate type of horror to match the Green Men of Mars comic, the headless rykors and taxidermied humans of Manator are the prime examples.

                            And yes the Tharks are supposed to be brutal, vicious, and barbaric... but you are supposed to like them anyways and hope that they get better... as well there was never any hints that they consumed the flesh of other sapient beings.

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                            • Originally posted by Ralok View Post
                              The first four issues were childish exploitation, they really didnt fit the Dejah Thoris character. The story would have worked much better with Tara whose character history is soaked with appropriate type of horror to match the Green Men of Mars comic, the headless rykors and taxidermied humans of Manator are the prime examples.

                              And yes the Tharks are supposed to be brutal, vicious, and barbaric... but you are supposed to like them anyways and hope that they get better... as well there was never any hints that they consumed the flesh of other sapient beings.
                              I didn't see anything childish about them!

                              And how did Deja's reactions not fit her character?

                              I understand if the content put you off, that makes sense. But I don't think your stated criticisms are able to be supported.

                              The character does not dictate the storyline (saying the story doesn't fit the character is not really a valid criticism as everybody gets thrust into situations that don't fit with our lives - it's our reactions to these situations that can be said to fit a situation or not, as opposed to the character itself).

                              What about the writing, art, or general story was childish?

                              I can partially see how one might view it as exploitation, but still disagree with the assessment. However I can see nothing childish about it (unless we are talking about very disturbed children!).

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                              • Originally posted by Cynicalman View Post
                                I didn't see anything childish about them!

                                And how did Deja's reactions not fit her character?

                                I understand if the content put you off, that makes sense. But I don't think your stated criticisms are able to be supported.

                                The character does not dictate the storyline (saying the story doesn't fit the character is not really a valid criticism as everybody gets thrust into situations that don't fit with our lives - it's our reactions to these situations that can be said to fit a situation or not, as opposed to the character itself).

                                What about the writing, art, or general story was childish?

                                I can partially see how one might view it as exploitation, but still disagree with the assessment. However I can see nothing childish about it (unless we are talking about very disturbed children!).
                                Okay... let me put it this ways "excessive titties and ass" are for thirteen year old boys who are too childish to look at porn and get that over with, its for idiots who think they are being proper by not lookign at porn and thus try to shovel it into everything else. It depowers dejah thoris repeatedly and puts her on the verge of rape, and has excessive torture porn for the sick freaks that get off on that stuff.

                                its childish in that it is immature! This is the kind of bullcrap people make because its stuff they werent allowed to enjoy as children, kind of like an idiot that buys wonder bread because it has polka dots, not realizing its high price isnt worth it... just buying it because their momma wouldn't let them.

                                then they over-indulge in it to absurd levels.

                                It was excessive, and these things were things that ERB used in his works on occassion but he knew how to keep it in moderation. Its important to do that with works with such heavy implication concepts, note... not "in-depth" or "high" concepts... heavy implication concepts....

                                Cannibalism, rape, illegal human trade, sexaulity.... it was all too much for such a small package.

                                If "Dejah Thoris and the White Apes" came off seeming like...Friday the 13th... then this was more like TExas Chainsaw Massacre... which as evidenced by the sequels, is a hard thing to get right!

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