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  • #46
    Originally posted by positronic View Post
    Was he? Where did he mention them?
    OP specifically asked for those three characters. Then Mr Barrucci mentioned there's one license they wouldn't be able to get. Why would he be refering to anything else?

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    • #47
      Originally posted by nickybdynamite View Post
      You'll be very happy with some of the upcoming announcements we have, and you'll be VERY HAPPY with the releases of the Black Bat and other new and exciting titles.

      There is one license that I know we won't be getting the rights to, but not my place to say. It's unfortunate, we're disappointed, but you'll know which it is when you see the announcements for the ones we do have (or when our friendly competitor announces their license).
      That was at the end of December 2012. Three and a half months later, and the only new DE pulp title that has been announced is The Shadow & The Green Hornet: Dark Nights. Mark Waid's Green Hornet and Miss Fury have since debuted (but not Black Bat yet as I type this), though at the time Nick wrote that they had already been announced. Don't get me wrong, as Nick promised, I am very happy with these. I am still not clear on which friendly competitor Nick was referring to, and while a co-production between IDW and DC teaming The Rocketeer with The Spirit was announced, all this seems to indicate to me is that DC is not letting go of The Spirit after all. So in that sense Dynamite indeed "won't be getting the rights to" The Spirit, although it would seem IDW isn't really either, just borrowing the character for a special crossover. Still no mention of Doc Savage or The Avenger from Dynamite (or anyone else for that matter).

      By that I conclude that the mystery of what new pulp character(s) licenses Dynamite will be acquiring -- and which one they will not be getting because one of their competitors has gotten it -- particularly as related to the three (Doc Savage, The Avenger, and The Spirit) that Chadster asked for, is pretty nearly as unresolved today as it was when Nick made the above statements 3 and a half months ago. The only new info here is that The Spirit license doesn't seem to be up for grabs as people seemed to think it was since DC last produced any material featuring the character. IDW released their Artist's Edition of The Spirit this week, but every single Artist's Edition they've done up to this point has been licensed from another company.
      Last edited by positronic; 04-12-2013, 05:21 PM.
      DE pull list: Will Eisner's The Spirit: The Corpse Makers, ERB's The Greatest Adventure, Green Hornet '66 Meets The Spirit, PSP: Herokillers, KISS/Vampirella, Mighty Mouse

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      • #48
        Originally posted by positronic View Post

        By that I conclude that the mystery of what new pulp character(s) licenses Dynamite will be acquiring -- and which one they will not be getting because one of their competitors has gotten it -- particularly as related to the three (Doc Savage, The Avenger, and The Spirit) that Chadster asked for, is pretty nearly as unresolved today as it was when Nick made the above statements 3 and a half months ago. The only new info here is that The Spirit license doesn't seem to be up for grabs as people seemed to think it was since DC last produced any material featuring the character. IDW released their Artist's Edition of The Spirit this week, but every single Artist's Edition they've done up to this point has been licensed from another company.
        No, you really can conclude the Spirit was probably the character that they failed to get. But if you want to look at it from another angle, fine.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by pulpfan View Post
          No, you really can conclude the Spirit was probably the character that they failed to get. But if you want to look at it from another angle, fine.
          Dynamite didn't fail to get The Spirit because they were beaten out of the license by a competitor. They didn't get the license because it wasn't available to be gotten; DC still has it. But that doesn't line up with Nick's statement "you'll know which it is when you see the announcements for the ones we do have (or when our friendly competitor announces their license)." There is a big difference between DC agreeing to allow The Spirit to be used in a crossover miniseries with IDW's Rocketeer, and the Eisner estate deciding not to renew its agreement with DC and instead granting the license to The Spirit to IDW for the next 5 (or however many) years. Strangely enough, IDW will soon be publishing a reprint line of books collecting the entire run of the Superman newspaper comic strip. That hardly means that DC has lost the rights to Superman.
          Last edited by positronic; 04-13-2013, 06:21 AM.
          DE pull list: Will Eisner's The Spirit: The Corpse Makers, ERB's The Greatest Adventure, Green Hornet '66 Meets The Spirit, PSP: Herokillers, KISS/Vampirella, Mighty Mouse

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          • #50
            It really bugs me how The Phantom isn't in Masks. Am I the only one who feels this way?

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            • #51
              Originally posted by db8coach View Post
              It really bugs me how The Phantom isn't in Masks. Am I the only one who feels this way?
              I feel he should be too, but I believe Nick said something before about "having other plans for him". That, in itself, leads many to believe a team-up between him and other recent additions to the Dynamite family in a mini-series.
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              • #52
                Yeah, but with the way that Masks is kind of insular, they could have used him anyway. Robinson said he just wasn't on the list of characters he could use for the series.

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                • #53
                  I believe Nick mentioned somewhere that there were licensors that they approached regarding MASKS that declined to have their character(s) included. My own interpretation of that statement is that he was referring to Hearst Entertainment/KFS and the characters were The Phantom, Mandrake, and/or Flash Gordon.

                  It was mentioned in an interview with Nick some time ago that an event/crossover involving just those characters was planned. That seems to me about a year ago, but nothing has materialized to date.
                  Last edited by positronic; 04-15-2013, 05:45 PM.
                  DE pull list: Will Eisner's The Spirit: The Corpse Makers, ERB's The Greatest Adventure, Green Hornet '66 Meets The Spirit, PSP: Herokillers, KISS/Vampirella, Mighty Mouse

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by DynamitePulpReader View Post
                    With Waid's Green Hornet, the current Green Hornet, The Shadow, The Spider, Miss Fury, and The Black Bat as the core line of the Dynamite pulp books I think they should add maybe one more monthly ongoing and that's it. I'm seriously thinking Masks should stick to be an 8 issue maxi-series that returns every year with a new chapter and maybe one more pulp related superhero book to flesh out the line.

                    Green Hornet
                    Green Hornet Legacy
                    The Shadow
                    The Spider
                    Miss Fury
                    The Black Bat
                    Masks (yearly)
                    (Insert 7th ongoing here)
                    If you are putting in Green Hornet, you should technically put in Lone Ranger as well. Lone Ranger has more of a claim that GH does as LR actually had 8 issues of a pulp magazine whereas Green Hornet had none. Westerns were a HUGE part of the pulp magazine output and that seems to have been forgotten. Just because it takes place in the 30's/40's doesn't automatically make it a 'pulp' comic.

                    But I get what you are coming from. I store my Green Hornets with my other pulp comics too.

                    DOC SAVAGE! Doc deserves his own comic damn it!

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                    • #55
                      Sure, sure.
                      Last edited by pulpfan; 04-23-2013, 06:20 PM.

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                      • #56
                        NICK BARUCCI: The MEGATHREAD of "PLEASE GIVE US MORE PULP"!

                        Hey Everyone!

                        I am rather new to the forum community and wanted to ask some opinion questions related to the pulp universe that Dynamite is creating to see what the community thinks.

                        After reading through Dynamite Entertainment's major cross over miniseries Masks (which was awesome by the way) I was left wondering about the status of the pulp universe that Dynamite is creating. At this point in time we have already been introduced to The Shadow, The Green Hornet, The Spider, Miss Fury, and The Black Bat through their ongoing series as well as some Year One miniseries. Though not all of these comic book lines are set in the same time period (for example: The Shadow and Green Hornet are set in traditional pulp eras while The Spider and Black Bat are in modern times,...and Miss Fury well she is a little of both) all of these characters are classic pulp fiction heroes. However, the Masks cross over brought some previous Golden Age superheroes into the same line as the pulp comics. Characters like The Black Terror and Green Lama played large roles in this cross over event (http://unleashthefanboy.s3.amazonaws...10/masks3a.jpg). These characters were previously re-introduced into comics by Dynamite in their Project Superpowers series with some other spin off stories. One character that was included in the Project Superpowers line was The Owl. Dynamite started publishing a new ongoing series based on this character where The Owl has been removed from the Golden Age era and put into modern times (comes out tomorrow so check it out http://cdn3-www.craveonline.com/asse...1-Cov-Ross.jpg). There was also the announcement of Codename: Action which also features The Green Lama again with the pulp fiction characters (http://comicbuzz.com/wp-content/uplo...-Cov1F0D0A.jpg). This got me wondering if Dynamite is trying to merge the pulp fiction universe with the Project Superpowers one. So I was wondering what everyone thinks. Would you like it if these 2 universes were merged together? Or would you prefer they remain separate aside from a few special cross over stories here and there? Not only that, but with all of the characters being spread between their respective eras or thrust into modern times, would you prefer all of the characters are put on the same time line? Or have them randomly distributed between modern eras and pulp/golden age eras? If they are one the same time line which era would you prefer?

                        Let me know what you think!

                        If you happen to use Twitter and want to discuss comics or science you can follow me @SWagner017.

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                        • #57
                          Personally I dont mind if in something like Masks or Codename: Action we get a mix up of the two lines, but I prefer to keep them seperate because I prefer the Pulp titles to the golden aged heroes though I do enjoy both. I just want to keep them apart.

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                          • #58
                            I really didn't like it in Masks. Miss Fury fit in ok, actually pretty well, but the Black Terror stuck out like a sore thumb.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by SWagner017 View Post
                              . . . After reading through Dynamite Entertainment's major cross over miniseries Masks (which was awesome by the way) I was left wondering about the status of the pulp universe that Dynamite is creating. At this point in time we have already been introduced to The Shadow, The Green Hornet, The Spider, Miss Fury, and The Black Bat through their ongoing series as well as some Year One miniseries. Though not all of these comic book lines are set in the same time period (for example: The Shadow and Green Hornet are set in traditional pulp eras while The Spider and Black Bat are in modern times,...and Miss Fury well she is a little of both) all of these characters are classic pulp fiction heroes.
                              I thought the main Green Hornet book (Green Hornet Legacy, but had previously been just “Green Hornet”) was in present-day, and the more recent one by Mark Waid was the one set in the traditional past?

                              And I don't think Miss Fury was ever technically "a classic pulp fiction" hero. She got her start as a newspaper comic strip that had been created by a female, while a majority of the pulp fiction characters had their origins in stories published in the magazines that were referred to as pulps.

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                              • #60
                                Generally, I think of it as two different worlds and I think I prefer it that way. The pulp (or noir) world and present day. There's nothing to indicate that the Legacy Green Hornet (or his dad) ever heard of the 40's version so to me one had nothing to do with the other.

                                There's also the question of the urn. Why would the Shadow, Miss Fury, Black Bat, Spider, etc, not have been pulled in? Were they all retired by then?

                                So (to me) Dynamite has a pulp style and a modern day setting, similar to the old DC Earth-2 system. Earth-2 had a Superman, but he was a different Superman. Dynamite pulp has a Black Bat, and modern Dynamite has a different Black Bat.

                                Do I want the two to connect? Not really...

                                Now I have no idea how Codename Action will play into that. Honestly, I'm anticipating Earth-3; a whole new setting for familiar faces. But the PSP characters that show up are actually the ones that could be out of the urn anyway (not sure about DDD, but Lama and Crusader weren't in it, were they?) and that COULD be Hornet senior, so....

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