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  • Originally posted by Captain Canuck View Post
    You're a traditionalist, Fantastic. Absolutely nothing wrong with that.

    However, that version of the character does not cater to traditionalists. That much is obvious.

    You disagree with Kato being female. Entirely entitled to that opinion. But she's going to be female in the next issue and the one after that. You know this. It's been clear from day one.

    So knowing this, why do you continue to read a book you know you're going to find irritating, then complain about it? I could understand if you wanted to express an opinion in order to improve a product, but I doubt they're going to change her gender any time soon.

    Dynamite gives you what you want in other books (and better ones!). They're trying to offer another option to those who want something else.

    If you don't want alternative version, that's fine. But it makes little sense to buy an alternative version then complain that it isn't the standard. It isn't supposed to be!
    Dynamite provides a forum for characters that either have no publications recently or very little. They sincerely move forward with their projects and give their artists free reign to make interesting aesthetics for their books.

    Their writers are first rate. Their artists are first rate... and their catalog is first rate too. I hope they continue to grow because they are my favourite publisher. =)

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    • Now Comics already published a Green Hornet comic book with a female Kato and killed off Britt Reid 20 years ago - hardly relevant to today's audience.


      Originally posted by zirron View Post
      Semantics, Fantastic. Point is... Kevin Smith is trying to make the character relevant for today's audience. That was the point I was trying to make, sir.
      Last edited by Mr. Fantastic; 11-02-2010, 09:53 PM.

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      • True, not to say there isn't room for both incidents to occur.
        The Britt Reid killed off in the NOW series was the Golden Age Britt Sr. of the Radio and Serial Era The same Britt we see operating in Green Hornet Year One and Kato Origins.
        The Britt Reid killed off in the pages of Dynamite's Kevin Smith penned series is the Britt Reid of the TV Series Played by Van Williams (The Silver Age Green Hornet if you will) Were the current series done by NOW still, Britt Reid Jr. would be Daniel John Reid the 3rd. (Born in 1983 making him the logical age to be a modern day Green Hornet....note: Mulan would be slightly harder to figure as she would be born between 96-97 to be in her early teens therefore way too young to be Danny's love interest. she could be Hatami's Daughter and therefore Kono Kato's younger sister which would fit her in more closely to where she'd need to be age wise.)

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        • Originally posted by zirron View Post
          Dynamite provides a forum for characters that either have no publications recently or very little. They sincerely move forward with their projects and give their artists free reign to make interesting aesthetics for their books.

          Their writers are first rate. Their artists are first rate... and their catalog is first rate too. I hope they continue to grow because they are my favourite publisher. =)
          Likewise, almost everything I read is Dynamite now.

          I like what they're doing with their past, present and future versions of the Hornet. I only wish that they plans had been more clear from the beginning. In many cases, we didn't even know if a series was ongoing or limited, if there were ties between the characters, etc.

          Because of the use of classic characters, Dynamite's competition for me is not DC or Marvel (especially not Marvel), it's actually Moonstone. Moonstone has some interesting books; I like the looks of the Originals line.

          I look forward to Kevin Smith's name falling off this title and seeing what Dynamite does with the character.

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          • I liked it too, though found parts of it confusing.

            Unless it has some bearing later, the first few pages were mostly useless.

            I couldn't keep track of who was who during the mob walk. I think Tony is called Joe early on in the conversation ("You okay, Joe?") and it messed me all up.

            Good start though. Does a nice job of fleshing out a couple of current characters. I think it will be a nice addition.

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            • Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic View Post
              ...it was written by Jai Nitz.
              Yet is so much better than Jai Nitz's Parallel Lives. Goes to show how much of a difference having better material to work with makes.

              I hope Nitz remains a regular in the Hornet "stable" of writers. I like his style.

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              • Just a quick question...

                If Kevin Smith's trying to produce something that will attract new people, who have most likely never heard of the Green Hornet before, I think they're doing a pretty good job though. I've never read Green Hornet before and the Radio show/tv series were before my time. The covers caught my eye and I ended up buying Green Hornet Vol 1: Sins of the Father. Yes, it was cliche, and pretty predictable, but I feel it was supposed to read sorta like a 'fun albiet slightly mindless action movie', if you get what I mean. It was a simple but fun read. I suppose seeing the concepts of characters you love changed must be pretty wierd, but I honestly don't think Smith's run on GH has been that bad so far. Just my opinion though.

                Also, just a quick question. Does anyone know if Kevin Smith's Green Hornet Hornet Vol.2: Wearing o' the Green is coming out in trade paperback? Because it's only listed on comicbook shop websites as a hardback, even though Vol 1. came out in both hardback and paperback...I know it's a minor detail, but I'm just wondering...

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                • Phil Hester's Green Hornet!

                  Newsarama interview:

                  Newsarama: Phil, just to start off with, how does it feel to be on the writing side of Green Hornet? How'd you wind up working on this part of the operation?

                  Phil Hester: To be honest, I've sort of been on this side all along. Not in terms of actually writing the book, but in adapting Kevin's script for Jonathan. I regularly saw the script right after Kevin finished it, tweaked it to fit the layouts I created, then gave it back to Kevin for his pass. I guess the best title for me on the book was "facilitator," but that credit doesn't make much sense to most people, so we just went with "layouts."

                  So, I've been elbows deep in the book from day one, and familiar with Kevin's vision for the characters. When Kevin moved on Nick Barrucci and Joseph Rybandt asked me to stay aboard and perpetuate the feel for the book that Kevin had established. Sort of like promoting a pitching coach to manager.

                  Nrama: Now, just to get inside Britt Reid, Jr.'s head a little bit. He's presumably finished with his nemesis, the Black Hornet, but at the same time, he always was a little bit of a playboy. Where's he at emotionally, now that he's done with his father's killer?

                  Hester: It's a tribute to the arc that Kevin crafted for Britt that he's changed so much between issues one and ten of this comic book. He began as a ne'er-do-well and became a hero. I think Britt still has the glib tongue and roguish humor he started with, but so much of his life has been turned upside down that he had to evolve pretty drastically. He discovered his father, Britt Sr., a man he was frankly underwhelmed with, had established a legacy of courage and sacrifice impossible to live up to... then had to live up to it.

                  In ten issues he loses his father, inherits a media empire, discovers his father was a super hero, discovers his father was murdered by a super villain who wants to kill him, gained two sidekicks and a mentor, fell in love with one of those sidekicks, and had a couple of near-death experiences. Now that's an arc!

                  I'd say where is now has a lot to do with finding his role as Green Hornet now that he's no longer motivated by revenge. His father's killer is dead, but his father's legacy remains unfulfilled. Britt is struggling with not only living up to his father's standards, but learning how to adapt them to today's world. Also, he and Mulan Kato are in a full-fledged unrequited love thing. It's hard enough to tie your shoes when you're in a new and complicated relationship, much less dismantle a city's underworld.

                  Nrama: How about Century City? Now that they have a crime fighter again, things must be different there -- what's the city like, now that there's a new Green Hornet and Kato in town?

                  Hester: Keep in mind that Green Hornet had been retired for nearly twenty years in issue one, so although Green Hornet and Kato cleaned up the town, criminal enterprises have been finding dark corners they can thrive in. Now that a new Green Hornet is on the scene, he's shining a light in those long neglected crannies. What he finds there would be a challenge to even his father.

                  We're going to meet a whole new class of criminal.

                  Nrama: Let's talk a little bit about villains here -- namely, the Green Hornet is taking on a character named Saint Death? Can you tell us a little bit about what this character is like, and what he is able to do?

                  Hester: It's a she... well, actually, it's an inanimate statue that seems to come to life to order members of her crime cult to commit various crimes all over Century City. It's based on the real phenomenon of Santa Muerte, which is the patron saint of the street in some parts of Mexico and the U.S. Many gangsters, prostitutes, and the extremely poor, basically those who are not comfortable in establishment churches, but still crave Catholic worship find themselves devotees of Santa Muerte.

                  I decided to amp this up a bit (it's comics) by creating a crime cult that seems to take direct orders from Santa Muerte herself. Is this a hoax perpetrated on the gang, or are they getting orders from a genuinely supernatural source? Either way, St. Death's soldiers are charged with a religious fervor that makes them impossible to intimidate, disrupting Green Hornet's usual plan of scaring gangs off of his turf.

                  Nrama: And as far as Kato goes, how is she doing by the beginning of this arc? I know there was some teasing in some of the covers as far as a romance between she and Britt -- any word as to whether or not that might blossom into something more?

                  Hester: It's definitely there. It's sort of a playful, flirtatious thing at the beginning, but as the danger of their adventures begins to take its toll, things get a bit more serious. I don't want to spoil anything, but there will be plenty development on that front.

                  Nrama: For you, what's the appeal of this Green Hornet as a character? Coming off of Kevin Smith's original ten scripts, have you adopted any "Smith"-isms for your approach to Britt?

                  Hester: I love Green Hornet because he's motivated by civic duty as much as vengeance or guilt. So many super heroes are driven by revenge, but, like Superman, Green Hornet is fighting evil because it's simply the right thing to do, especially for a guy with his kind of resources. I mean, if you were a multi-millionaire and didn't do anything to help the lives of others you'd be kind of a heel, right?

                  As far as Smith-isms, I'm fighting hard to keep the idiosyncrasies he established intact. Who needs to see cookie cutter heroes fighting cookie cutter villains? The sense of humor that Kevin imbued each character with is what separates Green Hornet from every other book on the stands. That's very natural for Kevin, but something I have to work at. Any fan of my stuff knows I tend to write heavy, almost dour stories (outside of Golly), so keeping that rapid fire drollness coming is a challenge.

                  Nrama: As far as working with Jonathan Lau again, you worked with him on layouts for the beginning of this series. Now that you're working as a writer, how has the back-and-forth changed between you two? What sorts of strengths do you feel Jonathan brings to the table, and how do you feel he's upped his game after ten issues?

                  Hester: Jonathan is a fantastic artist and we're lucky to have him. I worked with him on The Black Terror before this, so we already have a pretty solid working relationship. He's always been great with action and motion, but I think his time on Green Hornet has really improved his grasp of character work. His facial expressions and sense of timing have both grown by leaps and bounds.

                  My goal for the upcoming issues is to reward Jonathan for all the hard work he's done to date by introducing lots of cool villains for him to design. I feel like he's so great at choreographing fight scenes I should just do a silent issue that's 22 pages of kung-fu fighting. Hmmm... maybe that's not such a bad idea.

                  Nrama: For those who are still uncertain as far as jumping on the Green Hornet bandwagon, what would you say to get those stragglers on board? Any teases you'd care to give before the book hits the stands?

                  Hester: Dynamite has done a great job packaging the Kevin issues into readily accessible compilations. Check those out and if they seem to be something you dig, come back for issue eleven. We're going to keep the torch lit and held high.

                  Also, if you're a fan of Green Hornet, and feel you're already too familiar with his origin to jump into Kevin's run, now is the time to come back. We're moving into new territory and watching this rookie Green Hornet face new villains and threats. You'll find what makes Green Hornet great still here, but hopefully updated in a way that makes the book fresh, fun, and accessible to new readers. I always say the secret ingredient to good comics is giving a damn. Well, I give a damn about Green Hornet. Come see.

                  Oh, did I mention Alex Ross delivers a mind bending cover every month? Yeah, there's that.

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                  • Thankfully, Kevin Smith's run on the Green Hornet is coming to an end. It was rejected as a movie script and rightfully so. Kevin Smith may have been able to pull the wool over Dynamite's eyes but not the movie producers.

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOkPaSwXC6s

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                    • I haven't really start reading it quite yet, just a little sampling, but the hardcover edition looks decent enough; moonstone has a nice chronicles format I like

                      I wonder if we are ever going to get in the same manner books for The Shadow, and a Doc Savage Chronlcles

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                      • Newly Limited Series?

                        Looking at the "Forthcoming in January" page, I can't help but notice that Green Hornet Strikes! is now being marketed as a ten-issue limited series, while Golden Age Remastered is now being referred to as an 8-issue limited series. Curiously, the series we all assumed would be limited (the Year One series) carries no such limitation.

                        It seems that the large number of GH-related titles will be whittled down early in the new year. That is probably a wise decision on Dynamite's part, IMHO.

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                        • I've started reading mine. I'm enjoying it. Some good stories and a couple of real good ones. It's interesting to see the different approaches to the Hornet and his history.
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                          • Remastered was not selling real well, as far as I could tell, so no surprise there.

                            Strikes! was struggling scheduling-wise, so disappointing, but my guess is it'll come back in some form down the road, after the initial story is completed.

                            Fingers crossed on year one, since they made it sound as though its continuation would be dependent on Wagner remaining. Even if he doesn't, I thing there should be both a past and current version of the character so I hope the series continues in some form.

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                            • Having read the various series until now I think it's safe to assume that Kevin Smith's Kato is Chinese (why's he called kato is what still eludes me). The Kato from the year one continuity is japanese posing as korean.

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                              • Kato is Japanese. He just pretends to be Fillipino, or Korean. This is because America was at war with Japan and revealing his Japanese origin would put him in danger.

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